- From: Timothy Lebo <lebot@rpi.edu>
- Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 12:29:04 -0400
- To: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>
- Cc: Luc Moreau <l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>, "public-prov-wg@w3.org" <public-prov-wg@w3.org>, Paul Groth <p.t.groth@vu.nl>
Ivan, On Apr 29, 2013, at 12:22 PM, Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org> wrote: > > On Apr 29, 2013, at 18:12 , Timothy Lebo <lebot@rpi.edu> wrote: > >> Ivan, >> >> On Apr 29, 2013, at 12:02 PM, Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org> wrote: >> >>> >>> On Apr 29, 2013, at 17:55 , Luc Moreau <l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> I think we would need the following: >>> >>>> >>>> Are you planning to provide svg through content negotiation too? >>>> >>> >>> I do not think so; it would not fit the conneg stuff (unless you add the RDF/XML content into the metadata of SVG, or you put the content as RDFa…). >> >> How does providing an SVG not fit the "conneg stuff"? > > Well... conneg means the same information expressed by different means. Agreed. > I am not sure a graphical representation of the provenance (RDF) graph really qualifies… I do :-) > > But I can be convinced. You said it yourself, "graphical **representation**" (my emphasis). The fact that it's graphical does not change the fact that it's a representation. Whether it be TXT, HTML, XML, RDF, or SVG; content is conveyed by a concrete representation, a set of signs within a particular sign system. -Tim > > Ivan > > >> >> -Tim >> >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Ivan >>> >>> >>>> Luc >>>> >>>> On 04/29/2013 04:37 PM, Ivan Herman wrote: >>>>> Luc, >>>>> >>>>> to be sure that I do not mess up something. At the moment, each file is redirected to its own thing. Ie, the .htaccess file looks like this: >>>>> >>>>> RewriteEngine On >>>>> RewriteBase /2011/prov/provenance >>>>> RewriteRule prov-dm.ttl https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/provenance/prov-dm.ttl [R] >>>>> RewriteRule prov-n.ttl https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/provenance/prov-n.ttl [R] >>>>> RewriteRule prov-o.ttl https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/provenance/prov-o.ttl [R] >>>>> RewriteRule prov-constraints.ttl https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/provenance/prov-constraints.ttl [R] >>>>> RewriteRule prov-links.ttl https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/provenance/prov-links.ttl [R] >>>>> RewriteRule prov-primer.ttl https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/provenance/prov-primer.ttl [R] >>>>> RewriteRule prov-dictionary.ttl https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/provenance/prov-dictionary.ttl [R] >>>>> RewriteRule prov-aq.ttl https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/provenance/prov-aq.ttl [R] >>>>> RewriteRule prov-dc.ttl https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/provenance/prov-dc.ttl [R] >>>>> RewriteRule prov-implementations.ttl https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/provenance/prov-implementations.ttl [R] >>>>> RewriteRule prov-overview.ttl https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/provenance/prov-overview.ttl [R] >>>>> RewriteRule prov-xml.ttl https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/provenance/prov-xml.ttl [R] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> do you mean to say that, instead, all should redirect to the same file, except for prov-o, but the redirection should also happen for provn, provx, and svg? >>>>> >>>>> Because this is quite some work (I also have to do this for the .var files), which is fine, it is just that I want to be sure this is exactly what you want... >>>>> >>>>> To make things complete, I would also add an rdf file, b.t.w. If you can generate that, too... >>>>> >>>>> What about prov-o? At the moment, I see only a ttl file. >>>>> >>>>> Also: the SVG file begins by: >>>>> >>>>> width="1152pt" height="267pt" >>>>> >>>>> Personally, I would remove those. What happens is that, with those attributes, the SVG file never scales. It always tries to display it with those dimensions which is crazy; if you have a retina display, for example (which I do not:-( then it will not scale to the full screen. Removing those will work, because there is also a viewport argument (this is a mistake most of the SVG generators do:-( >>>>> >>>>> Ivan >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Apr 29, 2013, at 16:08 , Luc Moreau <l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Paul, Ivan, >>>>>> >>>>>> prov-family is available in its various formats at: >>>>>> >>>>>> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/provenance/prov-family.ttl >>>>>> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/provenance/prov-family.provn >>>>>> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/provenance/prov-family.provx >>>>>> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/provenance/prov-family.svg >>>>>> >>>>>> The provx and ttl versions still need curating. >>>>>> When the working group finishes its activities, the date also need to be updated. >>>>>> >>>>>> However, they can already be made available for tomorrow's release. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> We agreed that: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/provenance/prov-xxx >>>>>> >>>>>> is to be redirected, after content negotiation, to >>>>>> >>>>>> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/provenance/prov-family.[ttl,provn,provx] >>>>>> >>>>>> for all specs, except prov-o. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Luc >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Professor Luc Moreau >>>>>> Electronics and Computer Science tel: +44 23 8059 4487 >>>>>> University of Southampton fax: +44 23 8059 2865 >>>>>> Southampton SO17 1BJ email: l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk >>>>>> United Kingdom http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~lavm >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ---- >>>>> Ivan Herman, W3C Semantic Web Activity Lead >>>>> Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/ >>>>> mobile: +31-641044153 >>>>> FOAF: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf.rdf >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Professor Luc Moreau >>>> Electronics and Computer Science tel: +44 23 8059 4487 >>>> University of Southampton fax: +44 23 8059 2865 >>>> Southampton SO17 1BJ email: l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk >>>> United Kingdom http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~lavm >>>> >>> >>> >>> ---- >>> Ivan Herman, W3C Semantic Web Activity Lead >>> Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/ >>> mobile: +31-641044153 >>> FOAF: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf.rdf >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > > ---- > Ivan Herman, W3C Semantic Web Activity Lead > Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/ > mobile: +31-641044153 > FOAF: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf.rdf > > > > > >
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