# Re: PROV-ISSUE-642 (TomDN): Include example of provenance of a dictionary in the document [PROV-DICTIONARY]

From: Paul Groth <p.t.groth@vu.nl>
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 13:54:34 +0200
Message-ID: <CAJCyKRrsrw4CHHNn9FTP_u8XtvurRPuWKaS1UFCNN+uSQ48ZYw@mail.gmail.com>
To: Tom De Nies <tom.denies@ugent.be>
Cc: Provenance Working Group <public-prov-wg@w3.org>
nice one

pg

On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Tom De Nies <tom.denies@ugent.be> wrote:

>  Done.
> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/dictionary/Overview.html#example
>
> We're working on the XML and PROV-O serializations. In those sections,
> we'll do a similar thing as in the prov-n example to preserve the oversight
> in the document.
>
>
> Tom
>
> 2013/4/15 Paul Groth <p.t.groth@vu.nl>
>
>> Hi Tom,
>>
>>  I think that would be better (you could put ...) in the example and
>> then refer to the full data file elsewhere
>>
>>  Paul
>>
>>
>>  On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 1:20 PM, Tom De Nies <tom.denies@ugent.be>wrote:
>>
>>>  True, but that would limit the example to the use of
>>> wasDerivedByInsertionFrom, as all the keys of the starting lineup are the
>>> same.
>>> Technically, I could only show the players that are inserted into the
>>> 2012 roster, and remove all the hadDictionaryMember statements for
>>> ex:2011_roster. This would still be valid, but less complete. We could
>>> always do this in the document, and then refer to the full provenance in an
>>> external file.
>>>
>>> - Tom
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/4/15 Paul Groth <p.t.groth@vu.nl>
>>>
>>>> Hi Tom,
>>>>
>>>>  I like the example, but I wonder why you need to list all the
>>>> players? Why not just list the starting line-up this would reduce the
>>>> number of players you need to list.
>>>>
>>>>  cool stuff,
>>>> Paul
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Tom De Nies <tom.denies@ugent.be>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  Hi Paul, all,
>>>>>
>>>>> In the latest draft of PROV-Dictionary, we've included a real-world
>>>>> example of a dictionary and its provenance.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/dictionary/Overview.html#example
>>>>>
>>>>> Could you share your thoughts on this?
>>>>> Our only concern right now is that it is a bit long. Would you
>>>>> consider this a problem?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Tom
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  2013/3/22 Tom De Nies <tom.denies@ugent.be>
>>>>>
>>>>>> my apologies, this was for a different issue. Please ignore the
>>>>>> previous email.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2013/3/22 Tom De Nies <tom.denies@ugent.be>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The editors agree with this comment.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The proposed resolution is to add the constraint
>>>>>>> IF hadMember(d, e) and 'Dictionary' \in typeOf(d) THEN
>>>>>>> hadDictionaryMember(d, e, "k") with k and unknown key
>>>>>>> to PROV-Dictionary.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If any members of the WG have an objection to this, we ask kindly
>>>>>>> to  inform us by replying to this email. If no objections are received
>>>>>>> before Tuesday March 26th, we will assume this resolution is accepted,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Tom
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2013/3/7 Provenance Working Group Issue Tracker <
>>>>>>> sysbot+tracker@w3.org>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> PROV-ISSUE-642 (TomDN): Include example of provenance of a
>>>>>>>> dictionary in the document [PROV-DICTIONARY]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/642
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Raised by: Tom De Nies
>>>>>>>> On product: PROV-DICTIONARY
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Originally raised by Paul, who would like to see a small example of
>>>>>>>> the provenance of a dictionary in the document to illustrate the spec. We
>>>>>>>> should do this by the final release.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  --
>>>>
>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> Dr. Paul Groth (p.t.groth@vu.nl)
>>>> http://www.few.vu.nl/~pgroth/
>>>> Assistant Professor
>>>> - Web & Media Group | Department of Computer Science
>>>> - The Network Institute
>>>> VU University Amsterdam
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>  --
>>
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Dr. Paul Groth (p.t.groth@vu.nl)
>> http://www.few.vu.nl/~pgroth/
>> Assistant Professor
>> - Web & Media Group | Department of Computer Science
>> - The Network Institute
>> VU University Amsterdam
>>
>
>

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- Web & Media Group | Department of Computer Science
- The Network Institute
VU University Amsterdam

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