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Re: PROV-ISSUE-642 (TomDN): Include example of provenance of a dictionary in the document [PROV-DICTIONARY]

From: Tom De Nies <tom.denies@ugent.be>
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 13:48:14 +0200
Message-ID: <CA+=hbbeD7JNJh+uJuASr46yT54bY1Ot7_3YPcHLp97GotjE+MQ@mail.gmail.com>
To: Paul Groth <p.t.groth@vu.nl>
Cc: Provenance Working Group <public-prov-wg@w3.org>
Done.
https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/dictionary/Overview.html#example

We're working on the XML and PROV-O serializations. In those sections,
we'll do a similar thing as in the prov-n example to preserve the oversight
in the document.

Tom

2013/4/15 Paul Groth <p.t.groth@vu.nl>

> Hi Tom,
>
> I think that would be better (you could put ...) in the example and then
> refer to the full data file elsewhere
>
> Paul
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 1:20 PM, Tom De Nies <tom.denies@ugent.be> wrote:
>
>>  True, but that would limit the example to the use of
>> wasDerivedByInsertionFrom, as all the keys of the starting lineup are the
>> same.
>> Technically, I could only show the players that are inserted into the
>> 2012 roster, and remove all the hadDictionaryMember statements for
>> ex:2011_roster. This would still be valid, but less complete. We could
>> always do this in the document, and then refer to the full provenance in an
>> external file.
>>
>> - Tom
>>
>>
>> 2013/4/15 Paul Groth <p.t.groth@vu.nl>
>>
>>> Hi Tom,
>>>
>>>  I like the example, but I wonder why you need to list all the players?
>>> Why not just list the starting line-up this would reduce the number of
>>> players you need to list.
>>>
>>>  cool stuff,
>>> Paul
>>>
>>>
>>>  On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Tom De Nies <tom.denies@ugent.be>wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Hi Paul, all,
>>>>
>>>> In the latest draft of PROV-Dictionary, we've included a real-world
>>>> example of a dictionary and its provenance.
>>>>
>>>> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/dictionary/Overview.html#example
>>>>
>>>> Could you share your thoughts on this?
>>>> Our only concern right now is that it is a bit long. Would you consider
>>>> this a problem?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  2013/3/22 Tom De Nies <tom.denies@ugent.be>
>>>>
>>>>> my apologies, this was for a different issue. Please ignore the
>>>>> previous email.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2013/3/22 Tom De Nies <tom.denies@ugent.be>
>>>>>
>>>>>> The editors agree with this comment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The proposed resolution is to add the constraint
>>>>>> IF hadMember(d, e) and 'Dictionary' \in typeOf(d) THEN
>>>>>> hadDictionaryMember(d, e, "k") with k and unknown key
>>>>>> to PROV-Dictionary.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If any members of the WG have an objection to this, we ask kindly to
>>>>>> inform us by replying to this email. If no objections are received before
>>>>>> Tuesday March 26th, we will assume this resolution is accepted,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Tom
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2013/3/7 Provenance Working Group Issue Tracker <
>>>>>> sysbot+tracker@w3.org>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> PROV-ISSUE-642 (TomDN): Include example of provenance of a
>>>>>>> dictionary in the document [PROV-DICTIONARY]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/642
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Raised by: Tom De Nies
>>>>>>> On product: PROV-DICTIONARY
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Originally raised by Paul, who would like to see a small example of
>>>>>>> the provenance of a dictionary in the document to illustrate the spec. We
>>>>>>> should do this by the final release.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  --
>>>
>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Dr. Paul Groth (p.t.groth@vu.nl)
>>> http://www.few.vu.nl/~pgroth/
>>> Assistant Professor
>>> - Web & Media Group | Department of Computer Science
>>> - The Network Institute
>>> VU University Amsterdam
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Dr. Paul Groth (p.t.groth@vu.nl)
> http://www.few.vu.nl/~pgroth/
> Assistant Professor
> - Web & Media Group | Department of Computer Science
> - The Network Institute
> VU University Amsterdam
>
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