- From: Luc Moreau <L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
- Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2011 15:53:57 +0100
- To: public-prov-wg@w3.org
Hi Graham, Jim, and Simon,
Following the discussion this WE, Paolo and I have revised the
definition of entity.
Before editing the document, we would like to get your feedback.
General assumption (to appear in section 4): in the real world, we find:
- identifiable characterized things, their situation in the world
- activities
- events
Cheers,
Luc
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Revised section 5.1
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In PIDM, an entity construct is a representation of an identifiable
characterized thing.
An instance of an entity construct, expressed as entity(id, [ attr:
val, ...]) in the Provenance Abstract Syntax Notation:
- contains an identifier id, denoting a characterized thing
- contains a set of attribute-value pairs [ attr: val, ...], representing
this characterized thing's situation in the world.
The assertion of an instance of an entity construct , entity(id, [ attr:
val, ...]), states, from a given asserter's viewpoint, the existence of
an identifiable characterized thing, whose situation in the world is
represented by the attribute-value pairs, which remain unchanged during
a characterization interval, i.e. a continuous interval between two
events in the world (which may collapse into a single instant).
Example: <same example>
... states the existence of a thing of type File and location
/shared/crime.txt, and creator alice, denoted by identifier e0, during
some characterization interval.
Further properties:
- If an asserter wishes to characterize a thing with same
attribute-value pairs over several intervals, then they are required to
assert multiple entity assertions, each with its own identifier.
- There is no assumption that the set of attributes is complete and that
the attributes are independent/orthogonal of each other.
Cheers,
Luc
On 09/01/2011 05:32 PM, Provenance Working Group Issue Tracker wrote:
> PROV-ISSUE-85 (What-is-Entity): Definition of Entity is confusing, maybe over-complex [Conceptual Model]
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> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/85
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> Raised by: Graham Klyne
> On product: Conceptual Model
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> See also: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-prov-wg/2011Aug/0383.html
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> Section 5.1.
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> The definition of "Entity" seems to introduce un-needed complications. I don't see anything here that fundamentally distinguishes an entity from anything that can be named, i.e. a web resource.
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> I don't see what useful purpose is served by the insistence on "characterized thing".
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> This section seems to spend more effort describing "entity assertion" is is apparently a different concept, but not formally part of the model. There is some sense that an entity must have associated entity assertions... but I can't see why this is needed, and indeed it may be not possible to enforce this idea in RDF's open world model.
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> There's been talk of Entities being part of the occurrent vs continuant distinction, but I'm not seeing that explained.
>
> Suggest: why not just have an entity as an identifiable thing, and build the rest around that? What would break with this approach?
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