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RE: Separation of Presentation from the Places/Things

From: Rob Manson <roBman@mob-labs.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 09:24:47 +1100
To: "public-poiwg@w3.org" <public-poiwg@w3.org>
Message-ID: <1292279087.2403.32668.camel@robslapu>
Hey Karl,

sounds good to me 8)


roBman


On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 12:38 -0600, Seiler, Karl wrote:
> I agree that a prime goal should be the separation of the definition of a POI and a location.
> 
> A POI may need one or more locations to describe itself (navigation point x/y/z, display point center, main entrance door front, parking spots, a parcel area, a bounded polygon of linked X/y's, a set of navigable map references - link/side/spot, etc.). 
> 
> POI's can and do move from one location to another (closed and moved across the street).
> 
> Locations may not always have POIs.
> 
> A location can be shared by several POIs (stores in a mall).
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: public-poiwg-request@w3.org [mailto:public-poiwg-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Rob Manson
> Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 9:27 PM
> To: public-poiwg@w3.org
> Subject: Separation of Presentation from the Places/Things
> 
> Hi,
> 
> a while back I posted a note about the Data Model coming in 2 main
> flavours[1].
> 
>         1. the data describing the physical placement of the POI 
>            (e.g.lat/lon/alt/x-rot/y-rot/z-rot).
>         2. the content the POI is linked to 
>            (e.g. title, description, type, keywords, favicon/thumbnail,
>            3D model, etc.). 
>         
> Looking back at it I think I didn't quite express it correctly...but the
> idea is important and needs more discussion.  I think with point 1. I
> was really thinking about Presentation.  With point 2. I was thinking
> about the underlying Place or Thing that the POI was re-presenting.
> 
> On the Data Model page there seems to be a real blurring of these 2
> types of data (e.g. "Apply some CSS-like "outer-glow: 3pt yellow;"
> effect to your POI").
> 
> I think clarifying this abstraction would allow the two aspects of the
> Data Model to develop more freely and independently.
> 
> NOTE: In the Mobile AR space there is a constant push for more freedom
> in the Presentation layer (just like CSS enabled with the web).  But in
> the Data Model discussion this is quite different from separation of
> Markup and Presentation.
> 
> NOTE: Dynamic behaviour (e.g. scripting) may also need to be explicitly
> separated out too.
> 
> 
> roBman
> 
> 
> [1] http://www.w3.org/2010/POI/wiki/Data_Model#Notes
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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