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Re: Separation of Presentation from the Places/Things

From: Christine Perey <cperey@perey.com>
Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 21:07:47 +0100
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To: roBman@mob-labs.com
CC: "public-poiwg@w3.org" <public-poiwg@w3.org>
Hello all,

Could someone who was at the F2F meeting summarize if this topic was 
discussed and the outcomes?

Many thanks!

Christine

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On 12/13/10 11:24 PM, Rob Manson wrote:
> Hey Karl,
>
> sounds good to me 8)
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> roBman
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> On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 12:38 -0600, Seiler, Karl wrote:
>> I agree that a prime goal should be the separation of the definition of a POI and a location.
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>> A POI may need one or more locations to describe itself (navigation point x/y/z, display point center, main entrance door front, parking spots, a parcel area, a bounded polygon of linked X/y's, a set of navigable map references - link/side/spot, etc.).
>>
>> POI's can and do move from one location to another (closed and moved across the street).
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>> Locations may not always have POIs.
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>> A location can be shared by several POIs (stores in a mall).
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>> _______________________________
>> Karl Seiler
>> Director Location Technology&  Services
>> NAVTEQ - Chicago
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>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: public-poiwg-request@w3.org [mailto:public-poiwg-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Rob Manson
>> Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 9:27 PM
>> To: public-poiwg@w3.org
>> Subject: Separation of Presentation from the Places/Things
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> a while back I posted a note about the Data Model coming in 2 main
>> flavours[1].
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>>          1. the data describing the physical placement of the POI
>>             (e.g.lat/lon/alt/x-rot/y-rot/z-rot).
>>          2. the content the POI is linked to
>>             (e.g. title, description, type, keywords, favicon/thumbnail,
>>             3D model, etc.).
>>
>> Looking back at it I think I didn't quite express it correctly...but the
>> idea is important and needs more discussion.  I think with point 1. I
>> was really thinking about Presentation.  With point 2. I was thinking
>> about the underlying Place or Thing that the POI was re-presenting.
>>
>> On the Data Model page there seems to be a real blurring of these 2
>> types of data (e.g. "Apply some CSS-like "outer-glow: 3pt yellow;"
>> effect to your POI").
>>
>> I think clarifying this abstraction would allow the two aspects of the
>> Data Model to develop more freely and independently.
>>
>> NOTE: In the Mobile AR space there is a constant push for more freedom
>> in the Presentation layer (just like CSS enabled with the web).  But in
>> the Data Model discussion this is quite different from separation of
>> Markup and Presentation.
>>
>> NOTE: Dynamic behaviour (e.g. scripting) may also need to be explicitly
>> separated out too.
>>
>>
>> roBman
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>> [1] http://www.w3.org/2010/POI/wiki/Data_Model#Notes
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