- From: C. M. Sperberg-McQueen <cmsmcq@blackmesatech.com>
- Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2022 13:00:51 -0700
- To: public-ixml@w3.org
It's not clear to me whether we are planning to meet tomorrow or not.
- Notes from earlier meetings say we have regrets from Steven (though
his mail about getting Covid suggests otherwise) and John.
- Norm has several times said he would not like to skip two weeks in a
row.
- But no one seems to have responded to his inquiry about whether people
can meet on any other day.
I expect to be available tomorrow (unless something comes up), in case
we have critical mass. And I am available other days at our normal
time.
In any case, here is a draft agenda. In all substantive respects it's
the same as the agenda for 1 March.
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ixml meeting 08 March 2022
When: Tuesday 8 March 2022 15:30 UTC for 1 hour
https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=ixml+online+meeting+08+March&iso=20220301T1530
Where: Location: https://meet.google.com/dfz-rwpj-opq
Minute taker: NDW
IRC: the meetings will be minuted on IRC at irc://irc.w3.org:6667/%23ixml
Details of W3C IRC use are at [1] and [2].
[1] https://www.w3.org/wiki/InternetRelayChat
[2] https://www.w3.org/wiki/IRC
Previous minutes:
- 22 Feb
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2022Feb/0184.html
https://www.w3.org/2022/02/22-ixml-minutes
- 1 Mar
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2022Mar/0008.html
AGENDA
Topic: Review of agenda
0 Identify minute-taker
1 Review of action items
2 Status reports
Status of implementations
Status of testing and test suites
3 Review and resolution of issues
See below.
4 Other topics
Terminology
Website
Release plan
5 Next meeting (and next scribe)
6 Any other business
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Topic: Previous Actions
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ACTION (20220222-01): NDW to make a proposal for possible error codes
(issue #44).
ACTION (20220222-02): Steven to outline examples in the spec. to
differentiate static and dynamic errors (issues #25, #18, #23, #31).
ACTION (20220222-03): Steven - Issue #47 - @root (Outermost effective
nonterminal as attribute) - to be proposed in the spec as a dynamic
error.
ACTION (20220222-04): Steven - simplify the spec to require the output
of 'well-formed' XML. Does that have some subcodes in terms of the
violation of well-formedness. (Issues #25, #18, #23, #31, #47.)
ACTION (20220222-05): Steven Issue #33 (s = @a, b, @c) - this needs to
be explicit.
ACTION (20220222-06): NDW Issue #45 (Unused non-terminals) - NDW - two
test suites - undefined and unused. Pull request awaiting review.
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Topic: Status reports
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Topic: Status of implementations
Topic: Status of testing and test suites
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Topic: Review and resolution of bug reports and technical issues
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For all active issues, see https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/
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Topic: Conformance cluster: which grammars to accept and reject (et al.)
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Sub-cluster: constraints on grammars
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https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2021Dec/0072.html
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2021Dec/0073.html
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2021Dec/0077.html
Topic: Issue #43 One rule per nonterminal (again)
https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/19
https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/43
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Sub-cluster: responsibilities of the processor
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Topic: Issue #20: What grammars to accept and reject?
https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/20
Topic: Issue #21 May a conforming processor run out of memory?
https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/21
Topic: Issue #25 Static and dynamic errors?
https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/25
Clarification needed: may a processor reject a grammar statically
because a dynamic error may arise for some inputs? Or only if a
dynamic error will arise for any input?
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Other issues
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Topic: Issue #28 Schema for grammars
https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/28
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2021Dec/0009.html
Topic: Spec issue #26 - how is ambiguity defined?
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2022Jan/0030.html
https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/26
Topic: XML, VXML, output of ixml processing
Dave Pawson asked that this be a "(hopefully brief) agenda item".
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2022Jan/0150.html
Topic: Terminological issues: what is an 'error'?
Is it an 'error' for the input string not to be a sentence in the
language described by the input grammar? Agenda item requested by
Dave Pawson.
See https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2022Feb/0085.html
and the surrounding thread
Topic: Pragmas proposal (continued) (issues #10, #29, #30)
Brief summary of TM proposal:
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2022Jan/0029.html
Proposal: misc/pragmas-proposal.md in proposal-pragmas branch:
https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/blob/proposal-pragmas/misc/pragmas-proposal.md
Background: misc/pragmas.md in proposal-pragmas branch:
https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/blob/proposal-pragmas/misc/pragmas.md
(This is a longer discussion of the proposal, with alternatives;
discussion of requirements, desiderata, and design principles; and
worked examples showing how processors might use the pragmas
proposal for support of various kinds of additional functionality.)
Strawman proposal from SP:
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2022Jan/0102.html
Specific issue: is there a reason for pragmas to nest?
https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/30
Specific issue: are the constraints on what a pragma can change or do?
https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/29
See also (older discussions):
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2021Jun/0003 (pragmas)
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2021Jul/0002 (namespace decls, locality)
During the discussion, Dave Pawson asked that the application of
pragmas to parse trees be an agenda item:
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2022Jan/0169.html
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Topic: Other topics
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Topic: Terminology
Topic: Website
https://invisiblexml.org
https://github.com/invisibleXML/
Topic: Release plan
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Topic: Next meeting
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Normal date for ixml meetings is every Tuesday at 15:30 UTC
On the usual schedule, the next meeting would be Tuesday 15 March, at
15:30 UTC for one hour; the U.S. is on DST on that date, so the times
in the U.S. are one hour later than usual.
https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=ixml+online+meeting&iso=20220315T1530
N.B. Most of the U.S. shifts to Daylight Savings Time on Sunday 13
March 2022.
Expected scribe next week: volunteers sought.
[For the record: we have regrets from SP for 8 March, from JL for 8
and 15 March.]
[For the record: the current state of the minute-taking rota is:
Steven Pemberton 2022-01-25
Norm Tovey-Walsh 2022-02-08
M Sperberg-McQueen 2022-02-15
John Lumley 2022-02-22
Tomos Hillman 2022-03-01
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Topic: Any other business
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C. M. Sperberg-McQueen
Black Mesa Technologies LLC
http://blackmesatech.com
Received on Monday, 7 March 2022 20:01:11 UTC