- From: Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 10:16:43 +0900
- To: "public-i18n-core@w3.org" <public-i18n-core@w3.org>
Hi all, The minutes of yesterday's call are at http://www.w3.org/2006/02/07-i18ncore-minutes.html and below as text. Regards, Felix. [1]W3C [1] http://www.w3.org/ i18n core working group 7 Feb 2006 [2]Agenda [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2006Feb/0004.html See also: [3]IRC log [3] http://www.w3.org/2006/02/07-i18ncore-irc Attendees Present Mary, Felix, Francois Regrets Richard Chair Francois Scribe Felix Contents * [4]Topics 1. [5]action items 2. [6]technical plenary agenda 3. [7]comments on CSS selectors 4. [8]comments on cdr 1.0 5. [9]ltru: dependency between matching draft and the other parts of RFC 3066bis, see thread at http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ltru/current/msg04361 .html 6. [10]MWI review 7. [11]review of http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-newman-i18n-compa rator-06.txt 8. [12]review of http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-iab-idn-nextsteps -02.txt 9. [13]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/20 06JanMar/0171.html * [14]Summary of Action Items _________________________________________________________ action items <scribe> ACTION: Felix to ask Addison and Mark about language tags in css (ONGOING) [recorded in [15]http://www.w3.org/2006/02/07-i18ncore-minutes.html#action01] <scribe> ACTION: Felix to give back our feedback to CSS and CDF WG (DONE) [recorded in [16]http://www.w3.org/2006/02/07-i18ncore-minutes.html#action02] <scribe> ACTION: felix to ask addison for preparations for meetings with ws folks at tech plenary (ONGOING) [recorded in [17]http://www.w3.org/2006/02/07-i18ncore-minutes.html#action03] <scribe> ACTION: Felix to contact Moataz about HP replacement and TP (ONGOING) [recorded in [18]http://www.w3.org/2006/02/07-i18ncore-minutes.html#action04] <scribe> ACTION: francois / all to go through charmod norm comments of QT people etc. (ONGOING) [recorded in [19]http://www.w3.org/2006/02/07-i18ncore-minutes.html#action05] technical plenary agenda felix: meeting with css: [20]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-html-cg/2006JanMar/0059. html ... proposal from Bert: Fri, 14:00-15:30, at CSS WG [20] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-html-cg/2006JanMar/0059.html Francois: Special meeting on 2D navigation. Thu, 11:00-12:00, at WAI PF felix: meeting with Philippe Le Hegare during luncht? Francois: Thursday or Friday ... meeting with web services folks, would it be useful? Mary: Addison asked some people, but I don't know who? <scribe> ACTION: Felix to ask w3c ws "team" members about who to approach about ws i18n [recorded in [21]http://www.w3.org/2006/02/07-i18ncore-minutes.html#action06] francois: topics for the f2f: ... charmod norm felix: language and locale identifiers (just a short time) mary: I would like to go through the whole ws-i18n document ... if you just look at the document before the meeting and say "here is s.t. which is missing" etc. ... the usage scenarios, for example, had a lot of stuff, which is not in the current draft <scribe> ACTION: all except Mary to read ws-i18n before the tech plenary to be able to give comments [recorded in [22]http://www.w3.org/2006/02/07-i18ncore-minutes.html#action07] francois: we should discuss IRI test suite <scribe> ACTION: Francois to ping Martin whether we could put IRI test suite on the agenda [recorded in [23]http://www.w3.org/2006/02/07-i18ncore-minutes.html#action08] comments on CSS selectors <scribe> closed comments: 1, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 17, 18, 19, 22 comment 6 [24]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2006JanMar/ 0168.html [24] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2006JanMar/0168.html francois: This clarifies a lot ... but there is still an conformance issue ... we are happy about comment 6 comment 20 francois: it seems not many people are calling for this ... at the minimum, it needs to be default clusters comment 21 [25]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2006JanMar/ 0139.html [25] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2006JanMar/0139.html francois: maybe they accept it comment 23 [26]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2006JanMar/ 0108.html [26] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2006JanMar/0108.html francois: we will be satisfied with no 3, so we don't have to keep this comment. The selector syntax seems to be self supportive comments on cdr 1.0 comment 2: [27]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2006JanMar/ 0170.html [27] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2006JanMar/0170.html francois: they should clarify the scenario ... e.g. the image internal versus the image external ... that should not happen, and their spec should say that ... they say: [[But if you mean a document with an xml:lang CDR-referencing another document without an xml:lang or other authoritative indication of language, then I think you're left with heuristics as Bjoern pointed out.]] francois: You should rely on the main document ... you have several sources of information, and they have priorities felix: let's go back to them in that sense ltru: dependency between matching draft and the other parts of RFC 3066bis, see thread at [28]http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ltru/current/msg04361.html [28] http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ltru/current/msg04361.html francois: We have to wait for the publication of the other RFCs until we give advice to other working groups felix: I wrote a mail to Addison and Mark about this, and the CSS relation ... we have to wait until the issue is resolved or all 3 RFC drafts are "RFCs" MWI review [29]http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-mobile-bp-20060113/ [29] http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-mobile-bp-20060113/ felix: I will take a look at this until next meeting review of [30]http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-newman-i18n-comparator-06 .txt [30] http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-newman-i18n-comparator-06.txt francois: we had long discussions about this in the context of XQuery ... there was no satisfactory resolution ... in XQuery, they just use URIs to specify collations ... this draft wants to create a collation registry ... we should have a look at this felix: put it into review table review of [31]http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-iab-idn-nextsteps-02.txt [31] http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-iab-idn-nextsteps-02.txt francois: if we would have enough bandwith ... we would review it, but without the bandwith, we should not put it on the radar [32]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2006JanMar/017 1.html [32] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2006JanMar/0171.html francois: You have to know the language to do this ... transliterating to latin letters depends on the language ... there is no universal transliteration scheme ... we will just review their draft as they come forward with it Summary of Action Items [NEW] ACTION: all except Mary to read ws-i18n before the tech plenary to be able to give comments [recorded in [33]http://www.w3.org/2006/02/07-i18ncore-minutes.html#action07] [NEW] ACTION: Felix to ask w3c ws "team" members about who to approach about ws i18n [recorded in [34]http://www.w3.org/2006/02/07-i18ncore-minutes.html#action06] [NEW] ACTION: Francois to ping Martin whether we could put IRI test suite on the agenda [recorded in [35]http://www.w3.org/2006/02/07-i18ncore-minutes.html#action08] [PENDING] ACTION: Felix to ask Addison and Mark about language tags in css [recorded in [36]http://www.w3.org/2006/02/07-i18ncore-minutes.html#action01] [PENDING] ACTION: felix to ask addison for preparations for meetings with ws folks at tech plenary [recorded in [37]http://www.w3.org/2006/02/07-i18ncore-minutes.html#action03] [PENDING] ACTION: Felix to contact Moataz about HP replacement and TP [recorded in [38]http://www.w3.org/2006/02/07-i18ncore-minutes.html#action04] [PENDING] ACTION: francois / all to go through charmod norm comments of QT people etc. [recorded in [39]http://www.w3.org/2006/02/07-i18ncore-minutes.html#action05] [DONE] ACTION: Felix to give back our feedback to CSS and CDF WG [recorded in [40]http://www.w3.org/2006/02/07-i18ncore-minutes.html#action02] [End of minutes] _________________________________________________________ Minutes formatted by David Booth's [41]scribe.perl version 1.127 ([42]CVS log) $Date: 2006/02/08 01:14:11 $ [41] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm [42] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe/
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