Re: adding a note to 4.3.10.1 Creating an outline

Hi,

What should be the benefit of an <outline> element?

We have sectioning content and sectioning root for that I believe? How we
use those elements defines the outline right?
Me too was believing this is very important, untill I discovered it was not
used in user agents.

But this is mentioned before in bug:
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23490#c23

Also, I asked three times questions about the practical part of creating a
correct outline, never got a reply. So I get the idea developers are not
interested in this too, so why is the 'outline' mentioned anyway?

See this: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2013Dec/0011.html
See this: http://www.w3.org/community/html5spec/2013/09/03/correct-use-of/
See this:
http://www.w3.org/community/html5spec/2013/10/15/what-to-do-with-recurrent-content-among-pages-and-posts/

Vriendelijke groet,

Willem-Siebe Spoelstra

2014-02-27 12:07 GMT+01:00 Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>:

> Was it ever discussed to introduce an actual <outline> element (or
> maybe more appropriately a <toc> element)?
>
> I think it would be a worthwhile discussion for a HTML5.1 feature if
> there was implementor interest and it could make use of the outlining
> algorithm, making it actually useful.
>
> Silvia.
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 2:49 AM, Steve Faulkner
> <faulkner.steve@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Section 4.3.10.1 Creating an outline [1] defines an outlining algorithm,
> but
> > there are no implementation requirements for user agents.
> Authors/developers
> > have been lead to believe that the algorithm is something real that is
> > implemented by user agents, this has lead to the dissemination of
> incorrect
> > authoring advice in books, on the web etc.
> >
> > I propose to add a note at the start of section 4.3.10.1 to clarify,
> > something along the lines of:
> >
> > "the implementation of the outline algorithm in user agents is not
> required,
> > Its inclusion in the specification is for informative purposes only. "
> >
> > any thoughts?
> >
> > [1] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/sections.html#outlines
> > --
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > SteveF
> > HTML 5.
>