- From: Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>
- Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 11:10:09 +1100
- To: Willem-Siebe Spoelstra <info@spoelstra.ws>
- Cc: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>, HTMLWG WG <public-html@w3.org>
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 11:22 PM, Willem-Siebe Spoelstra <info@spoelstra.ws> wrote: > Hi, > > What should be the benefit of an <outline> element? > > We have sectioning content and sectioning root for that I believe? How we > use those elements defines the outline right? You misunderstood. My suggestion is for a Table-Of-Contents element. Something like the feature that Word processing applications have that can automatically gather the outline of a document and present it with page numbers in a auto-created table of contents. Something like this could be provided in a <toc/> element for Web pages (similar to what wiki pages already do) and would make use of the outline algorithm. Cheers, Silvia. > Me too was believing this is very important, untill I discovered it was not > used in user agents. > > But this is mentioned before in bug: > https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23490#c23 > > Also, I asked three times questions about the practical part of creating a > correct outline, never got a reply. So I get the idea developers are not > interested in this too, so why is the 'outline' mentioned anyway? > > See this: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2013Dec/0011.html > See this: http://www.w3.org/community/html5spec/2013/09/03/correct-use-of/ > See this: > http://www.w3.org/community/html5spec/2013/10/15/what-to-do-with-recurrent-content-among-pages-and-posts/ > > Vriendelijke groet, > > Willem-Siebe Spoelstra > > 2014-02-27 12:07 GMT+01:00 Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>: > >> Was it ever discussed to introduce an actual <outline> element (or >> maybe more appropriately a <toc> element)? >> >> I think it would be a worthwhile discussion for a HTML5.1 feature if >> there was implementor interest and it could make use of the outlining >> algorithm, making it actually useful. >> >> Silvia. >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 2:49 AM, Steve Faulkner >> <faulkner.steve@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > Section 4.3.10.1 Creating an outline [1] defines an outlining algorithm, >> > but >> > there are no implementation requirements for user agents. >> > Authors/developers >> > have been lead to believe that the algorithm is something real that is >> > implemented by user agents, this has lead to the dissemination of >> > incorrect >> > authoring advice in books, on the web etc. >> > >> > I propose to add a note at the start of section 4.3.10.1 to clarify, >> > something along the lines of: >> > >> > "the implementation of the outline algorithm in user agents is not >> > required, >> > Its inclusion in the specification is for informative purposes only. " >> > >> > any thoughts? >> > >> > [1] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/sections.html#outlines >> > -- >> > >> > Regards >> > >> > SteveF >> > HTML 5.
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