Re: ACTION-95, ISSUE-65: Plan to publish a new WD of HTML-5

On Wed, 28 Jan 2009, Lachlan Hunt wrote:
> Karl Dubost wrote:
> > Le 27 janv. 2009 à 19:40, Jonas Sicking a écrit :
> > > That is one question. Another question would be if it's useful and 
> > > practical to do so.
> > 
> > From discussions in different *web designers* and *webmasters* fora 
> > and venues, yes very useful to only have the markup language.
> 
> Given the fact that there are now 2 drafts being worked on specifically 
> for authors by myself and DanC, what benefit is Mike's draft, especially 
> since it's content is clearly not optimised for such an audience?

Not optimised nor indeed _intended_ for such an audience. The draft is 
clear that it is intended to be a "tutorial" or "how to" authoring guide. 
Web designers and Webmasters aren't asking for a normative specification 
with lines like:

   aria-dropeffect = "none" | list{ "copy", "move"?, "reference"? } | 
   list{ "copy", "reference"?, "move"? } | list{ "move", "copy"?, 
   "reference"? } | list{ "move", "reference"?, "copy"? } | list{ 
   "reference", "copy"?, "move"? } | list{ "reference", "move"?, "copy"? }

...or:

   date =
     A valid full-date, as defined in RFC 3339 [RFC3339], with the 
     additional qualification that the year component is a 
     nonzero-date-fullyear.

...both of which are from Mike's draft. My experience discussing this with 
such authors is that by and large they are looking for approachable texts 
in the form of an easy-to-read reference guide (a list of all elements and 
APIs, with clear explanations of how to use them, with examples) and 
selections of topical tutorials ("How to write a comment form", "How to 
mark up a blog", "How to embed video", etc).

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