- From: Leif Halvard Silli <lhs@malform.no>
- Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2009 16:32:17 +0100
- To: Henri Sivonen <hsivonen@iki.fi>
- CC: Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>, Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>, Rob Sayre <rsayre@mozilla.com>, Larry Masinter <masinter@adobe.com>, HTML WG <public-html@w3.org>
Henri Sivonen 2009-02-06 10.07: > On Feb 6, 2009, at 08:31, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: >> On Feb 5, 2009, at 7:01 PM, Leif Halvard Silli wrote: >>> Henri said that <font> is out for ideological reasons. That was a >>> claim about the non-WHATWG people, mostly. Then you offered the >>> "alternative" description that WHATWG started from zero. That to me >>> is simply a confirmation of what Henri said - namely that WHATWG >>> represents the non-ideological voice. >> >> I am pretty sure Henri was referring to Ian Hickson's ideology >> (specifically strong belief in separating presentation from content) >> when he referred to <font> being out for ideological reasons. I don't >> think he meant to insult non-WHATWG participants, What I was after was not "who insulted whom", but (self-)reflexion on the "from zero" standpoint. > Maciej's interpretation is what I meant. (However, I think in addition > to Hixie's own strong belief, there's a public relations component > catering to the strong belief of readers of A List Apart and affiliated > publications.) Once again a few needless words about A List Apart. Please note that "Font tag considered harmful" has been a slogan of the authoring advice found on the W3 MarkUp front page since at least 1999[1] until today[2]. (Probably that slogan has not had the same meaning all the time, though.) > In the interest of being fair and balanced, I note that Hixie disagreed > with my assessment on IRC and said the non-conformance of <font> is > motivated by the Media Independence design priciple. A fair point of him. I think, however, that there should be nothing wrong with <strong><font color=red >NB!</font></strong>. [1] http://web.archive.org/web/19990423105741/http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/ [2] www.w3.org/MarkUp -- leif halvard silli
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