- From: Matthew Raymond <mattraymond@earthlink.net>
- Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 22:08:17 -0400
- To: Al Gilman <Alfred.S.Gilman@IEEE.org>
- CC: public-html@w3.org
Al Gilman wrote: > To summarize, our goals for HTML 5 are as follow: > > + Support for issues highlighted in Table: 1 of the ARIA Roadmap > http://www.w3.org/TR/aria-roadmap/#html_support Most of those look good. > + Backward [compatibility] to ARIA, including the role attribute. I strongly oppose the |role| attribute. From what I can tell, it's nothing more than a poor workaround for XML's lack of attribute minimization. Take the following example: | <span role="wairole:checkboxtristate" [...] > [...] </span> What happens if we replace this with a namespaced attribute of the same name as the role? | <span wairole:checkboxtristate="true" [...] > [...] </span> Well, what do you know! The exact same number of characters! You may ask, however, what happens if there is more than one WAI-ARIA role. Well, the WAI-ARIA Role specification doesn't define how multiple roles from that namespace interact or even entertain the possibility, so it's kind of a moot question. Another problem is that HTML doesn't have any defined way of handling namespaces. Since the |role| attribute (as currently defined) requires namespaces, it can't be used in HTML without the addition of namespaces to the syntax. Here's how I'd like to see this handled: HTML and XHTML: | <span wairole="checkboxtristate"> [...] </span> This would take a single value (since the existing spec only really defines using one WAI-ARIA role at a time anyway) and would map it to the following in XHTML: | <span wairole:checkboxtristate="true"> [...] </span> Controls that overlap attributes in the WAI-STATE specification (such as |readonly|, |disabled| and |checked|) would then be allowed on all HTML elements, but they would be treated as aliases for WAI-STATE attributes in question and would otherwise be ignored for elements that they are invalid for in HTML 4.01. (Thus, Internet Explorer's use of |disabled| on non-control elements would become valid.) Note, however, that these elements would still be limited to their range of values they had in HTML 4.01, with the exception of new attributes and values introduced in Web Forms 2.0. This would allow you to do the following... | <span wairole="checkboxtristate" checked disabled> [...] </span> ...as opposed to the following plus two namespace declarations... | <span role="wairole:checkboxtristate" aaa:checked="true" | aaa:disabled="true"> [...] </span> For WAI-STATE attributes and values not covered by this, you'd still have to use XHTML and the WAI-STATE namespace. > + Allow for full interoperability with assistive technologies This is generally a good thing, but new HTML features should not necessarily be targeted towards legacy assistive technologies. > + A preference for access to accessibility information via the DOM OK. > + Reduced efforts by authors to support assistive technologies This one is critical. If your average MySpace user can't understand how to make their markup accessible, you might as well go back to the drawing board. > + Support for the access element or a version of it. HTML 4.01 <label> elements (and the |accesskey| attribute) already handles part of this: | <label for="username" accesskey="u">User Name</label> I think <link> could be adapted for this as well: | <link rel="access" href="#username" title="User Name"> Don't see a huge need for a new <access> element. I especially don't see the point of |targetrole|. Why would you want to have a single key assigned to multiple controls? That's just confusing. > + Maintain equivalent or improved accessibility features of HTML 4.01 I think most of the accessibility features in HTML 4.01 should be kept, but perhaps some should be replaced with better markup that will see greater use on the Web.
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