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Re: A Compromise to the Versioning Debate

From: Mihai Sucan <mihai.sucan@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 13:05:58 +0300
To: "Bruce Boughton" <bruce@bruceboughton.me.uk>
Cc: "Lachlan Hunt" <lachlan.hunt@lachy.id.au>, public-html@w3.org
Message-ID: <op.tqtkz8ormcpsjgr0b0dp@localhost.localdomain>

Le Sun, 15 Apr 2007 12:43:48 +0300, Bruce Boughton  
<bruce@bruceboughton.me.uk> a écrit:

> Mihai Sucan wrote:
>> While I personally want a switch like this "always standards-mode", I  
>> don't agree with the assumption "we are competent enough to make  
>> informed decisions for ourselves".
>> [..] The majority of web developers working in companies *will* make  
>> use of this switch unknowingly of the consequences, and then they'll  
>> blame IE [n] for breaking their pages (because they relied on some old  
>> bugs).
> To find themselves in this situation, they must first explicitly opt-in  
> to HTML5 standards mode with <!DOCTYPE html>.  When IE9 comes out and  
> perhaps breaks their sites, they can then add the IE8 mode switch.  If  
> they were competent enough to find out about <!DOCTYPE html> they should  
> be competent enough to find the mode switch if hand coding.  I would not  
> expect a programmer to program Java without referring to the API, so I  
> don't see why we expect people hand-coding HTML not to refer to the  
> spec.  For those that don't hand code their HTML, it is important that  
> tools vendors expose this option.

I don't agree with that.

The majority of incompetent web developers use tutorials and copy/paste  
script, use frameworks and anything premade.

Given such switch, frameworks will require it and will only tell you  
"please copy/paste the following line at the beginning of the HTML page".  
They'll spare the details, if you know what I mean.

It is inevitable, given the switch, we will end up with tons of documents  
relying on buggy behaviour in IE.next. IE n+1 will break those pages if it  
doesn't add yet another switch.

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