- From: Dao Gottwald <dao@design-noir.de>
- Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 12:20:39 +0200
- To: Mike Schinkel <w3c-lists@mikeschinkel.com>
- CC: public-html@w3.org
Mike Schinkel schrieb: > Dao Gottwald wrote: >> http://esw.w3.org/topic/HTML/ProposedDesignPrinciples >> "markup that expresses semantics is usually preferred to purely >> presentational markup" -- So you can't deprecate a semantic element in >> favor of a presentational one. >> "HTML Strikes a balance between semantic expressiveness and practical >> usefulness." -- Explicitly removing semantics can't be considered as a >> balance. (I neither think <indent> would be useful.) > I wanted to follow up with these principles which I believe support my > proposal, i.e. solve a real problem and give users priority by making it > easy for them: > > > Solve Real Problems > > SolveRealProblems </topic/SolveRealProblems>: Changes to the spec should > solve actual real-world problems. Abstract architectures that don't > address an existing need are less favored than pragmatic solutions to > problems that web content faces today. And existing widespread problems > /should/ be solved, when possible. I don't see how "authors miss to define any semantics when indenting" is any better than "authors abuse <blockquote>". Prizing the abuse of <blockquote> (widespreadness yet to be proved) by adding an explicitly presentational element doesn't solve the problem, but manifests another one. > Priority of Constituencies > > PriorityOfConstituencies </topic/PriorityOfConstituencies>: In case of > conflict, consider users over authors over implementors over specifiers > over theoretical purity. In other words costs or difficulties to the > user should be given more weight than costs to authors; which in turn > should be given more weight than costs to implementors; which should be > given more weight than costs to authors of the spec itself, which should > be given more weight than those proposing changes for theoretical > reasons alone. Of course, it is preferred to make things better for > multiple constituencies at once. Introducing presentational markup goes agains "users over authors". --dao
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