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Re: {minutes} HTML WG telecon 2013-05-23: actions, CfCs, and task force reports

From: Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 08:04:20 +1000
Message-ID: <CAHp8n2nd+iChsQZxR+scnmYrTZnGAmHfmoCZ+8TzNU+vBDcSCw@mail.gmail.com>
To: public-html-wg-announce@w3.org
Note: work on the text track issues is in my pipeline.
Regards,
Silvia.
On 24 May 2013 02:40, "Glenn Adams" <glenn@skynav.com> wrote:

> Minutes are published at
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> http://www.w3.org/2013/05/23-html-wg-minutes.html
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> Text version below:
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>    [1]W3C
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>       [1] http://www.w3.org/
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>                                - DRAFT -
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>                        HTML Weekly Teleconference
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> 23 May 2013
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>    [2]Agenda
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>       [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2013AprJun/0018.html
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> Attendees
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>    Present
>           Bin_Hu, janina, glenn, paulc, [Microsoft], Sam, Eliot,
>           krisk, Daniel, jaymunro, +1.818.406.aaaa, CyrilRa,
>           adrianba, hober, tantek
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>    Regrets
>    Chair
>           paulc
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>    Scribe
>           glenn
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> Contents
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>      * [3]Topics
>          1. [4]Action Items Due this Week
>          2. [5]New Issues this Week
>          3. [6]Items Closing this Week
>          4. [7]New Calls this Week
>          5. [8]Task Force Reports
>          6. [9]AOB
>          7. [10]Scribe for Next Meeting
>      * [11]Summary of Action Items
>      __________________________________________________________
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>
>    trackbot, start meeting
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>    <trackbot> Date: 23 May 2013
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>    <rubys> trackbot, start meeting
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>    <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
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>    <trackbot> Date: 23 May 2013
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>    <rubys> Agenda:
>    [19]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce
>    /2013AprJun/0018.html
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>      [19] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2013AprJun/0018.html
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>    <scribe> scribenick: glenn
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>    <paulc_>
>    [20]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce
>    /2013AprJun/0018.html
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>      [20] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2013AprJun/0018.html
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> Action Items Due this Week
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>    ACTION-226?
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>    <trackbot> ACTION-226 -- Kris Krueger to make sure that the
>    organizational structure of github test suite is well
>    documented -- due 2013-05-13 -- CLOSED
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>    <trackbot> [21]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/226
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>      [21] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/226
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>    kris: updated this morning
>    ... discussed at previous F2F
>    ... posted to wiki
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>    paulc: has been closed
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> New Issues this Week
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>    paulc: none
>
> Items Closing this Week
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>    <krisk> I updated the wiki at
>    [22]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/Testing that covers Action
>    Item 226
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>      [22] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/Testing
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>    Pre-Last Call period for Media Source Extensions (MSE) closed
>    on Wed May 22
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>    [23]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013M
>    ay/0001.html
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>      [23] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013May/0001.html
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>    paulc: will create now LC draft
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>    glenn: notes new bugs coming from OIPF
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>    paulc: has made those folks aware of pre-LC timing
>    ... they decided to file bugs
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>    <paulc_> MSE bugs: [24]http://tinyurl.com/6pdnzej
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>      [24] http://tinyurl.com/6pdnzej
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>    paulc: see link above
>    ... 23 bugs, most filed recently, some technical
>    ... pre-LC has had a good effect
>    ... Media TF will take up
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>    CfC: stop work on "HTML: The Markup Language" and "HTML5:
>    Edition for Web Authors" closed on Thu May 23
>
>    [25]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013M
>    ay/0069.html
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>      [25] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013May/0069.html
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>    paulc: this closes tonight midnite Eastern, no objection so far
>    ... if passes, then candidate docs ready for pubs as WG Notes
>    ... links went out earlier this week
>    ... here:
>
>    <paulc_> See ready to go WG Notes:
>    [26]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013M
>    ay/0087.html
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>      [26] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013May/0087.html
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> New Calls this Week
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>    CfC: Publish three heartbeat drafts as WDs closes Tue May 28
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>    [27]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013M
>    ay/0085.html
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>      [27] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013May/0085.html
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>    paulc: chairs have been working on this, and thanks to editors
>    for breaking through tech issues
>    ... closes on Tuesday next week
>    ... if passes will publish on TR page next week
>
>    CfC: Publish main element extension specification as WG Note
>    closes Tue May 28
>
>    [28]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013M
>    ay/0086.html
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>      [28] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013May/0086.html
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>    paulc: has been folded into 5.1 and 5.0, will take doc on TR
>    page and turn into WG Note
>    ... will indicate no longer active developed doc
>    ... will use this for future similar cases
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>    CfC: remove Microdata from HTML 5.0
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>    paulc: in agenda, shows link
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>    CfC: remove Microdata from HTML 5.0, incorporate Microdata into
>    5.1, publish Microdata doc as a W3C note
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>    [29]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013M
>    ay/0000.html
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>      [29] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013May/0000.html
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>    paulc: above is original link
>    ... tantek expressed some concerns
>    ... Charles wants work to proceed
>    ... discussion is ongoing
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>    <paulc_> See discussion thread at
>    [30]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2013May/009
>    9.html
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>      [30] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2013May/0099.html
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>    Tantek's response against continuing work on Microdata
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>    [31]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2013May/013
>    9.html
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>      [31] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2013May/0139.html
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>    Charles' response for continuing work on Microdata
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>    [32]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2013May/009
>    9.html
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>      [32] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2013May/0099.html
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>    Status: Chairs currently recommend that we let this dialogue
>    continue.
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>    paulc: any comments?
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>    tantek: if there are supporters, then they need to do the
>    work...
>    ... i.e., implementation support work
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>    paulc: notes that just restates what was in email
>    ... needs to let dialog continue for a while
>
> Task Force Reports
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>    Accessibility Task Force
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>    janina: continue to meet
>    ... coordinating activities ... edits to ALT attribute section
>    of spec
>    ... in ARIA mappings document, could wait for ALT attribute
>    work
>    ... some folks are away this week
>    ... biggest item: coordination of spec testing related to a11y
>    features
>
>    <tantek> Note: paulc_ my comment was genuine. I have no
>    objection to continuing discussions and my vote of confidence
>    in the chairs to guide it is also genuine. I'll speak up again
>    if I have new information to provide in the topic. Thanks.
>
>    janina: paulc will help with this
>
>    paulc: notes CfC in TF on longdesc
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>    janina: published in Feb, bugs processed, some handled, some
>    changes performed
>    ... preparing for LC on doc, but wants to do new WD
>    (stablization draft)
>    ... i.e., a pre-LC
>    ... then TF facilitators will request spec work from HTML Eds
>    once process completed
>    ... expect request within a week
>
>    Testing Task Force
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>    <krisk> We met on 5/21 as planned
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>    <krisk> Here is the IRC logs
>    [33]http://www.w3.org/2013/05/21-htmlt-irc
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>      [33] http://www.w3.org/2013/05/21-htmlt-irc
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>    s/krisk/krisk/
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>    krisk: encourages attendance at upcoming TTWF in Tokyo
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>    Media Task Force
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>    <krisk> Agenda
>    [34]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-testsuite/2
>    013May/0002.html
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>      [34] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-testsuite/2013May/0002.html
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>    paulc: met on tuesday
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>    <paulc_> TF minutes:
>    [35]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2013M
>    ay/0113.html
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>      [35] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2013May/0113.html
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>    paulc: spent last meeting on EME bugs, some long outstanding
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>    <krisk> Meeting just made sure we didn't have violent
>    disagreement about GitHub organization 'master' and 'cr'
>    branches in the 'web platform tests'
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>    paulc: issued 9-10 new AIs to resolve
>    ... will meet again (on EME) in 2 weeks
>    ... MSE will meet this upcoming Tuesday
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>    <paulc_> MSE bugs: [36]http://tinyurl.com/6pdnzej
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>      [36] http://tinyurl.com/6pdnzej
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>    paulc: pre-LC has ended, with ~20 bugs filed
>    ... MSE folks will focus on these new bugs, then prepare WD for
>    LC
>    ... AOB
>
> AOB
>
>    TextTrack API changes
>
>    [37]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2013Apr/002
>    7.html
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>      [37] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2013Apr/0027.html
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>    Status: What are the next steps on this matter?
>
>    hold, calling in again
>
>    <tantek> While Glenn is calling in, let me clarify re: md as a
>    separate doc:
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>    <tantek> No objections to Yandex editing md as a wd/cr and
>    continuing work on it.
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>    glenn: dialog needs to continue
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>    paulc: requests glenn to revive thread, summarizing agreements
>    and open issues
>
>    <scribe> ACTION: glenn to revive thread on text track cue open
>    bugs [recorded in
>    [38]http://www.w3.org/2013/05/23-html-wg-minutes.html#action01]
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>    <trackbot> Created ACTION-228 - Revive thread on text track cue
>    open bugs [on Glenn Adams - due 2013-05-30].
>
>    Overview of testing in view of CR exit
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>    [39]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2013May/005
>    9.html
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>      [39] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2013May/0059.html
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>    Status: The Chairs plan to bring this to the WG for a CfC on
>    subsets of the recommendations.
>
>    paulc: will bring this to WG as series of CfCs
>    ... no active plan yet, beginning dialog among chairs
>
>    <tantek> Will also note that Yandex also supports indexing
>    microformats in addition to md:
>    [40]http://microformats.org/wiki/yandex-search without a need
>    for microformats to be in a monolithic HTML5.x spec, thus there
>    shouldn't be any problems with them similarly supporting md.
>    Thanks, that was the only new information I thought of.
>
>      [40] http://microformats.org/wiki/yandex-search
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>    paulc: need consensus from WG on how to apply DAR's material
>    ... i.e., DAR's record from recent F2F
>    ... need to start putting these decisions in front of WG,
>    should have something in the next 2 weeks
>
> Scribe for Next Meeting
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>    paulc: paulc will chair next week
>
>    <krisk> I can help
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>    paulc: any volunteers for scribing
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>    <krisk> scribe
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>    krisk volunteers
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>    paulc: thanks krisk for volunteering
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>    trackbot, end meeting
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> Summary of Action Items
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>    [NEW] ACTION: glenn to revive thread on text track cue open
>    bugs [recorded in
>    [41]http://www.w3.org/2013/05/23-html-wg-minutes.html#action01]
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>    [End of minutes]
>      __________________________________________________________
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> On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 10:42 PM, Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>wrote:
>
>> The HTML Working Group will have its usual weekly teleconference on
>> 2013-05-23 for up to 60 minutes from 16:00Z to 17:00Z.
>>
>> http://timeanddate.com/s/2d9x
>>
>> Tokyo 01:00+1, Amsterdam/Oslo 18:00, London/Dublin 17:00, New Jersey/York
>> 12 noon, Kansas City 11:00, Seattle/San Francisco 09:00.
>>
>> Chair of the meeting: Paul Cotton
>> Scribe: TBD
>>
>> (See the end of this email for dial-in and IRC info.)
>>
>> == Agenda ==
>>
>> 1. ACTION items due by Thursday, May 23
>>
>> a) ACTION-226: Make sure that the organizational structure of github test
>> suite is well documented [Kris Krueger]
>> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/226
>>
>> 2. New Issues This Week:
>> None
>>
>> 3. Items Closing This Week
>>
>> a) Pre-Last Call period for Media Source Extensions (MSE) closed on Wed
>> May 22
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013May/0001.html
>>
>> b) CfC: stop work on "HTML: The Markup Language" and "HTML5: Edition for
>> Web Authors" closed on Thu May 23
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013May/0069.html
>>
>> 4. New Calls this Week
>>
>> a) CfC: Publish three heartbeat drafts as WDs closes Tue May 28
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013May/0085.html
>>
>> b) CfC: Publish main element extension specification as WG Note closes
>> Tue May 28
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013May/0086.html
>>
>> 5. CfC: remove Microdata from HTML 5.0
>>
>> a) CfC: remove Microdata from HTML 5.0, incorporate Microdata into 5.1,
>> publish Microdata doc as a W3C note
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013May/0000.html
>>
>> b) Tantek's response against continuing work on Microdata
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2013May/0139.html
>>
>> c) Charles' response for continuing work on Microdata
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2013May/0099.html
>> Status: Chairs currently recommend that we let this dialogue continue.
>>
>> 6. Task Force Reports
>>
>> a) Accessibility Task Force
>>
>> b) Testing Task Force
>>
>> c) Media Task Force
>>
>> 7. Other Business
>>
>> a) TextTrack API changes
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2013Apr/0027.html
>> Status: What are the next steps on this matter?
>>
>> b) Overview of testing in view of CR exit
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2013May/0059.html
>> Status: The Chairs plan to bring this to the WG for a CfC on subsets of
>> the recommendations.
>>
>> 8. Scribe for next meeting
>>
>> 9. Adjournment
>>
>>
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