- From: Glenn Adams <glenn@skynav.com>
- Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 10:39:05 -0600
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[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
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HTML Weekly Teleconference
23 May 2013
[2]Agenda
[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2013AprJun/0018.html
Attendees
Present
Bin_Hu, janina, glenn, paulc, [Microsoft], Sam, Eliot,
krisk, Daniel, jaymunro, +1.818.406.aaaa, CyrilRa,
adrianba, hober, tantek
Regrets
Chair
paulc
Scribe
glenn
Contents
* [3]Topics
1. [4]Action Items Due this Week
2. [5]New Issues this Week
3. [6]Items Closing this Week
4. [7]New Calls this Week
5. [8]Task Force Reports
6. [9]AOB
7. [10]Scribe for Next Meeting
* [11]Summary of Action Items
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trackbot, start meeting
<trackbot> Date: 23 May 2013
<rubys> trackbot, start meeting
<trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
<trackbot> Date: 23 May 2013
<rubys> Agenda:
[19]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce
/2013AprJun/0018.html
[19] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2013AprJun/0018.html
<scribe> scribenick: glenn
<paulc_>
[20]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce
/2013AprJun/0018.html
[20] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2013AprJun/0018.html
Action Items Due this Week
ACTION-226?
<trackbot> ACTION-226 -- Kris Krueger to make sure that the
organizational structure of github test suite is well
documented -- due 2013-05-13 -- CLOSED
<trackbot> [21]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/226
[21] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/226
kris: updated this morning
... discussed at previous F2F
... posted to wiki
paulc: has been closed
New Issues this Week
paulc: none
Items Closing this Week
<krisk> I updated the wiki at
[22]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/Testing that covers Action
Item 226
[22] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/Testing
Pre-Last Call period for Media Source Extensions (MSE) closed
on Wed May 22
[23]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013M
ay/0001.html
[23] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013May/0001.html
paulc: will create now LC draft
glenn: notes new bugs coming from OIPF
paulc: has made those folks aware of pre-LC timing
... they decided to file bugs
<paulc_> MSE bugs: [24]http://tinyurl.com/6pdnzej
[24] http://tinyurl.com/6pdnzej
paulc: see link above
... 23 bugs, most filed recently, some technical
... pre-LC has had a good effect
... Media TF will take up
CfC: stop work on "HTML: The Markup Language" and "HTML5:
Edition for Web Authors" closed on Thu May 23
[25]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013M
ay/0069.html
[25] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013May/0069.html
paulc: this closes tonight midnite Eastern, no objection so far
... if passes, then candidate docs ready for pubs as WG Notes
... links went out earlier this week
... here:
<paulc_> See ready to go WG Notes:
[26]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013M
ay/0087.html
[26] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013May/0087.html
New Calls this Week
CfC: Publish three heartbeat drafts as WDs closes Tue May 28
[27]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013M
ay/0085.html
[27] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013May/0085.html
paulc: chairs have been working on this, and thanks to editors
for breaking through tech issues
... closes on Tuesday next week
... if passes will publish on TR page next week
CfC: Publish main element extension specification as WG Note
closes Tue May 28
[28]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013M
ay/0086.html
[28] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013May/0086.html
paulc: has been folded into 5.1 and 5.0, will take doc on TR
page and turn into WG Note
... will indicate no longer active developed doc
... will use this for future similar cases
CfC: remove Microdata from HTML 5.0
paulc: in agenda, shows link
CfC: remove Microdata from HTML 5.0, incorporate Microdata into
5.1, publish Microdata doc as a W3C note
[29]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013M
ay/0000.html
[29] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013May/0000.html
paulc: above is original link
... tantek expressed some concerns
... Charles wants work to proceed
... discussion is ongoing
<paulc_> See discussion thread at
[30]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2013May/009
9.html
[30] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2013May/0099.html
Tantek's response against continuing work on Microdata
[31]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2013May/013
9.html
[31] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2013May/0139.html
Charles' response for continuing work on Microdata
[32]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2013May/009
9.html
[32] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2013May/0099.html
Status: Chairs currently recommend that we let this dialogue
continue.
paulc: any comments?
tantek: if there are supporters, then they need to do the
work...
... i.e., implementation support work
paulc: notes that just restates what was in email
... needs to let dialog continue for a while
Task Force Reports
Accessibility Task Force
janina: continue to meet
... coordinating activities ... edits to ALT attribute section
of spec
... in ARIA mappings document, could wait for ALT attribute
work
... some folks are away this week
... biggest item: coordination of spec testing related to a11y
features
<tantek> Note: paulc_ my comment was genuine. I have no
objection to continuing discussions and my vote of confidence
in the chairs to guide it is also genuine. I'll speak up again
if I have new information to provide in the topic. Thanks.
janina: paulc will help with this
paulc: notes CfC in TF on longdesc
janina: published in Feb, bugs processed, some handled, some
changes performed
... preparing for LC on doc, but wants to do new WD
(stablization draft)
... i.e., a pre-LC
... then TF facilitators will request spec work from HTML Eds
once process completed
... expect request within a week
Testing Task Force
<krisk> We met on 5/21 as planned
<krisk> Here is the IRC logs
[33]http://www.w3.org/2013/05/21-htmlt-irc
[33] http://www.w3.org/2013/05/21-htmlt-irc
s/krisk/krisk/
krisk: encourages attendance at upcoming TTWF in Tokyo
Media Task Force
<krisk> Agenda
[34]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-testsuite/2
013May/0002.html
[34] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-testsuite/2013May/0002.html
paulc: met on tuesday
<paulc_> TF minutes:
[35]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2013M
ay/0113.html
[35] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2013May/0113.html
paulc: spent last meeting on EME bugs, some long outstanding
<krisk> Meeting just made sure we didn't have violent
disagreement about GitHub organization 'master' and 'cr'
branches in the 'web platform tests'
paulc: issued 9-10 new AIs to resolve
... will meet again (on EME) in 2 weeks
... MSE will meet this upcoming Tuesday
<paulc_> MSE bugs: [36]http://tinyurl.com/6pdnzej
[36] http://tinyurl.com/6pdnzej
paulc: pre-LC has ended, with ~20 bugs filed
... MSE folks will focus on these new bugs, then prepare WD for
LC
... AOB
AOB
TextTrack API changes
[37]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2013Apr/002
7.html
[37] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2013Apr/0027.html
Status: What are the next steps on this matter?
hold, calling in again
<tantek> While Glenn is calling in, let me clarify re: md as a
separate doc:
<tantek> No objections to Yandex editing md as a wd/cr and
continuing work on it.
glenn: dialog needs to continue
paulc: requests glenn to revive thread, summarizing agreements
and open issues
<scribe> ACTION: glenn to revive thread on text track cue open
bugs [recorded in
[38]http://www.w3.org/2013/05/23-html-wg-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-228 - Revive thread on text track cue
open bugs [on Glenn Adams - due 2013-05-30].
Overview of testing in view of CR exit
[39]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2013May/005
9.html
[39] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2013May/0059.html
Status: The Chairs plan to bring this to the WG for a CfC on
subsets of the recommendations.
paulc: will bring this to WG as series of CfCs
... no active plan yet, beginning dialog among chairs
<tantek> Will also note that Yandex also supports indexing
microformats in addition to md:
[40]http://microformats.org/wiki/yandex-search without a need
for microformats to be in a monolithic HTML5.x spec, thus there
shouldn't be any problems with them similarly supporting md.
Thanks, that was the only new information I thought of.
[40] http://microformats.org/wiki/yandex-search
paulc: need consensus from WG on how to apply DAR's material
... i.e., DAR's record from recent F2F
... need to start putting these decisions in front of WG,
should have something in the next 2 weeks
Scribe for Next Meeting
paulc: paulc will chair next week
<krisk> I can help
paulc: any volunteers for scribing
<krisk> scribe
krisk volunteers
paulc: thanks krisk for volunteering
trackbot, end meeting
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: glenn to revive thread on text track cue open
bugs [recorded in
[41]http://www.w3.org/2013/05/23-html-wg-minutes.html#action01]
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On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 10:42 PM, Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>wrote:
> The HTML Working Group will have its usual weekly teleconference on
> 2013-05-23 for up to 60 minutes from 16:00Z to 17:00Z.
>
> http://timeanddate.com/s/2d9x
>
> Tokyo 01:00+1, Amsterdam/Oslo 18:00, London/Dublin 17:00, New Jersey/York
> 12 noon, Kansas City 11:00, Seattle/San Francisco 09:00.
>
> Chair of the meeting: Paul Cotton
> Scribe: TBD
>
> (See the end of this email for dial-in and IRC info.)
>
> == Agenda ==
>
> 1. ACTION items due by Thursday, May 23
>
> a) ACTION-226: Make sure that the organizational structure of github test
> suite is well documented [Kris Krueger]
> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/226
>
> 2. New Issues This Week:
> None
>
> 3. Items Closing This Week
>
> a) Pre-Last Call period for Media Source Extensions (MSE) closed on Wed
> May 22
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013May/0001.html
>
> b) CfC: stop work on "HTML: The Markup Language" and "HTML5: Edition for
> Web Authors" closed on Thu May 23
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013May/0069.html
>
> 4. New Calls this Week
>
> a) CfC: Publish three heartbeat drafts as WDs closes Tue May 28
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013May/0085.html
>
> b) CfC: Publish main element extension specification as WG Note closes Tue
> May 28
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013May/0086.html
>
> 5. CfC: remove Microdata from HTML 5.0
>
> a) CfC: remove Microdata from HTML 5.0, incorporate Microdata into 5.1,
> publish Microdata doc as a W3C note
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013May/0000.html
>
> b) Tantek's response against continuing work on Microdata
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2013May/0139.html
>
> c) Charles' response for continuing work on Microdata
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2013May/0099.html
> Status: Chairs currently recommend that we let this dialogue continue.
>
> 6. Task Force Reports
>
> a) Accessibility Task Force
>
> b) Testing Task Force
>
> c) Media Task Force
>
> 7. Other Business
>
> a) TextTrack API changes
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2013Apr/0027.html
> Status: What are the next steps on this matter?
>
> b) Overview of testing in view of CR exit
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2013May/0059.html
> Status: The Chairs plan to bring this to the WG for a CfC on subsets of
> the recommendations.
>
> 8. Scribe for next meeting
>
> 9. Adjournment
>
>
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