- From: Dave Reynolds <dave.e.reynolds@gmail.com>
- Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 11:20:16 +0100
- To: public-gld-wg@w3.org
Sorry to open this one up yet again. But given yesterday's missive from tbl [1] I think we need to include the non-open variant of the 5* as well as the open one. Dave [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/semantic-web/2013May/0199.html On 23/05/13 13:11, Bernadette Hyland wrote: > Hi Marios, > For simplicity, let's go with Sandro's suggestion in this thread, OK? > > Bernadette > > On May 23, 2013, at 3:53, Marios Meimaris <m.meimaris@medialab.ntua.gr > <mailto:m.meimaris@medialab.ntua.gr>> wrote: > >> Hi Sandro, Bernadette, all, >> >> May I suggest >> >> *5. In your RDF, have some (or all) of the identifiers be links (URLs) >> to useful external data sources.* >> >> Marios >>> *5: In your RDF, have the identifiers be links (URLs) to useful data >>> sources* >>> >>> Okay? Can we live with that? >>> >>> -- Sandro >>> >>> >>> >>> Bernadette Hyland <bhyland@3roundstones.com> wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> Remaining feedback folded in especially in relation to definition of >>>>> "Resource", addition of "Web Resource" and fixing 5 star LOD >>>>> definition. Also updated normative references in doc. >>>>> >>>>> Linked Data Glossary Draft 21-May 2013 [1] is ready for publication >>>>> once run through one last PubRules check. (Last week the WG approved >>>>> to publish as a WG Note.) >>>>> >>>>> NB: Editorial changes are to keep tone consistent with rest of the >>>>> document, however were not intended to alter the proposed meaning. If >>>>> this unintentionally happened, please notify asap. Reference to RFC >>>>> 3986 was made elsewhere so I dropped from below proposal so as to not >>>>> sound repetitive. >>>>> >>>>> Again, we're striving for simplicity and for this to be a glossary of >>>>> terms for Web developers, not the anointed per se. >>>>> >>>>> All OK now per your feedback?? >>>>> >>>>> -----%<------- >>>>> 90. Resource >>>>> >>>>> In an RDF context, a resource can be anything that an RDF graph >>>>> describes. A resource can be addressed by a Unified Resource Identifier >>>>> (URI). See also Resource Description Framework (RDF) 1.1 Concepts and >>>>> Abstract Syntax [RDF11-CONCEPTS] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 127. Web Resource >>>>> >>>>> A web page addressed by a URL. Examples include: an HTML web page, an >>>>> image offered by a web server, or a dataset accessible by a URL. A Web >>>>> Resource may have different representations. For example, an RDF >>>>> database might be accessed at a single URL using multiple syntaxes, >>>>> such as RDFa, JSON-LD, and Turtle. See also Hypertext Transfer Protocol >>>>> HTTP/1.1 [RFC2616]. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Bernadette Hyland >>>>> >>>>> [1]https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/glossary/index.html >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On May 8, 2013, at 5:48 AM, Dave Reynolds<Dave.e.Reynolds@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 08/05/13 05:39, Bernadette Hyland wrote: >>>>>>> Hi Sandro, >>>>>>> The editors have folded in all comments received in relation to the >>>>> LD >>>>>>> Glossary. Please see latest version. [1] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For Thursday's telecon, would you create a diff previously approved >>>>> for >>>>>>> publication (April) & the May 7th (current). Also, need a new >>>>>>> Overview.html file run through PubRules. I'm done until we get >>>>> further >>>>>>> feedback. Thanks for your help on this. >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regarding "Resource", I've simplified to include only one >>>>> definition. >>>>>>> In keeping with my new mantra, "keep it simple", how does this this >>>>>>> sit with you & others? >>>>>> Personally I prefer Sandro's suggestion. I imagine that at least some >>>>> people reading the glossary will be aware of the notion of REST and >>>>> might expect something more like the entry for Web Resource. Having >>>>> both solves that problem. >>>>>> However, it's not something I would argue strongly over. >>>>>> >>>>>> Dave >>>>>> >>>>>>> 89. Resource >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In an RDF context, a resource can be anything that an RDF graph >>>>>>> describes. A resource can be addressed by a Unified Resource >>>>> Identifier >>>>>>> (URI) >>>>>>> >>>>> <https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/glossary/index.html#uniform-resource-identifier>. >>>>>>> Keep in mind that this LD Glossary is a starting point for those new >>>>> to >>>>>>> Linked Data. We don't want to scare people, it is the 'welcome >>>>> basket' >>>>>>> not the definitive guide for the working LD expert (which is found >>>>>>> elsewhere on the W3C site). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Bernadette >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [1]https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/glossary/index.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sandro wrote: >>>>>>>> I've thought about more than most people have thought about food >>>>>>> PS. Clearly you haven't met my 15 year old son who pretty much only >>>>>>> thinks about food ;-) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On May 7, 2013, at 7:15 PM, Sandro Hawke <sandro@w3.org >>>>>>> <mailto:sandro@w3.org>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> def'n of resource? >>>>>>>> Bernadette and I were working on actually publishing the Glossary, >>>>>>>> which the group approved for publication, and I noticed a little >>>>> problem: >>>>>>>> 86. Resource >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> A resource is anything that can be addressed by a Unified >>>>> Resource >>>>>>>> Identifier (URI) >>>>>>>> >>>>> <file:///home/sandro/Repos/gld/glossary/diff.html#uniform-resource-identifiers>. >>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 93. Resource >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> A resource is a network data object or service that can be >>>>>>>> identified by an HTTP URI. Resources may be available in >>>>> multiple >>>>>>>> representations (e.g. multiple languages, data formats, size, >>>>> and >>>>>>>> resolutions) or vary in other ways. See details from RFC 2616bis >>>>>>>> for details on Uniform Resource Identifiers. See details from >>>>> RFC >>>>>>>> 2616bis for details on Uniform Resource Identifiers. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The definition of Resource is something I've thought about more >>>>> than >>>>>>>> most people have thought about food. I suggest we call the second >>>>> one >>>>>>>> "Web Resource", and explain, like this: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *Resource* >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> (Not to be confused with _Web Resource_) An entity. Saying >>>>> that >>>>>>>> something is a resource says nothing at all about it, because by >>>>>>>> the definition of the term, everything is a resource. For >>>>> more >>>>>>>> details see Uniform Resource Identifier (URI): Generic Syntax >>>>> (RFC >>>>>>>> 3986) [1] and Resource Description Framework (RDF) 1.1 Concepts >>>>> [2]. >>>>>>>> *Web Resource* >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Anything which is addressed by a URL; roughly speaking, a web >>>>>>>> page. Examples include: an HTML web page, an image offered by a >>>>>>>> web server, or a dataset available for access at some URL. A >>>>>>>> resource may change its state over time and have different >>>>>>>> representations of the same state. For example, a webcam might >>>>>>>> offer both JPEG and PNG versions of its current image, at the >>>>> same >>>>>>>> URL, using content negotiation, or an RDF database might be >>>>>>>> accessed at one URL using multiple syntaxes, such as RDFa, >>>>>>>> JSON-LD, and Turtle. For more details see Hypertext Transfer >>>>>>>> Protocol -- HTTP/1.1 [3] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sometimes Web Resources are just called "Resources". In some >>>>>>>> contexts, this can cause unnecessary confusion. The difference >>>>> is >>>>>>>> related to the distinction between URLs (which identify Web >>>>>>>> Resources) and URIs (which identify Resources in general), as >>>>>>>> discussed inhttp://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3305#page-3 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [1]http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3986 >>>>>>>> [2] >>>>> http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf11-concepts/#resources-and-statements >>>>>>>> [3] >>>>>>>> >>>>> http://www.w3.org/Protocols/HTTP/1.1/rfc2616bis/draft-lafon-rfc2616bis-04.html#intro.terminology >>>>>>>> I hope that works for folks. Bernadette made some other changes, >>>>> so >>>>>>>> we're going to ask the WG for approval again before publishing. >>>>> I'll >>>>>>>> be sending along a pointer to the new version and the diffs once I >>>>>>>> have it passing pubrules. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- Sandro >>>>>>>> >>> >>
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