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RE: [WCAG2 TECHS] i18n comment 5: H56 source text

From: Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org>
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 18:00:33 -0000
To: <public-comments-wcag20@w3.org>
Cc: <public-i18n-core@w3.org>
Message-ID: <00b301c8287a$95ceac50$6501a8c0@rishida>

Unfortunately, the example shown will produce exactly the wrong result.  The
", W3C" text must appear inside the span element to produce the expected
result.

If you change the example, however, you will run into the problem of how to
show source text in a sensible fashion, since the hebrew is running right to
left, and W3C must run left to right and be positioned to the left.

I suggest that you describe the source text rather than show it. Eg. "... o
the left of (i.e. after) the Hebrew text. This can be achieved by enclosing
the quote in a span, to which the attribute code dir="rtl" has been added." 

I would also be tempted to show before and after examples, like those I
suggested for
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2007OctDec/0135.html
If you want to do that, and need me to help provide examples and
visually-ordered ascii, let me know.  (I didn't do it just in case, because
it takes a while to create them.)

RI


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> -----Original Message-----
> From: public-i18n-core-request@w3.org 
> [mailto:public-i18n-core-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Richard Ishida
> Sent: 16 November 2007 15:51
> To: public-i18n-core@w3.org
> Subject: RE: [WCAG2 TECHS] i18n comment 5: H56 source text
> 
> 
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Loretta Guarino Reid [mailto:lorettaguarino@google.com]
>   Sent: 04 November 2007 05:09
>  ...
>   Please review our resolutions for the following comments,  
> and reply to  us by 19 November 2007 at  
> public-comments-wcag20@w3.org to say whether  you are  
> satisfied. Note that this list is publicly archived.
>  ...
>   WCAG 2.0 Editor's Draft of May-October 2007 at  
> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/WD-WCAG20-20071102/
>   
>  ...
>  
> > ----------------------------------------------------------
> > Comment 10: H56: issues with example similar to H34
> > Source: 
> > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/200
> 7Jun/0046.html
> > (Issue ID: 1968)
> > ----------------------------
> > Original Comment:
> > ----------------------------
> > 
> > Comment from the i18n review of:
> > http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-TECHS-20070517/
> > 
> > Comment 5
> > At http://www.w3.org/International/reviews/0706-wcag2-techniques/
> > Editorial/substantive: E
> > Owner: RI
> > 
> > Location in reviewed document:
> > H56 
> > 
> [http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-TECHS-20070517/Overview.html#H56]
> > 
> > Comment:
> > The use of the example of source text runs into similar 
> > problems to those described for H34. You can see how I 
> > attempted to explain this in examples at 
> > http://www.w3.org/International/geo/html-tech/tech-bidi.html#r
> i20030726.140315918
> > 
> > ---------------------------------------------
> > Response from Working Group:
> > ---------------------------------------------
> > 
>  Thank you for helping us improve this technique and the 
>  example. The code example now reads:
>  
>  <p>The title says "<span lang="he"
>  dir="rtl">&#1508;&#1506;&#1497;&#1500;&#1493;&#1514;
>  &#1492;&#1489;&#1497;&#1504;&#1488;&#1493;&#1501;</span>, 
>  W3C" in Hebrew.</p>
>  
> 
> 
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