- From: WCAG 2.0 Comment Form <nobody@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 05:36:29 +0000 (GMT)
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Name: Jason White Email: jasonw@ariel.its.unimelb.edu.au Affiliation: Document: W2 Item Number: Appendix A: Glossary Part of Item: Comment Type: technical Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change): In the definition of \"Web page\" the phrase \"is not embedded in another resource\" needs to be clarified. Consider for example an image, which (as is typically the case) has its own URI. It can be used in two ways: (1) by being embedded in, i.e., rendered together with, another resource. In this case it is not a Web page. (2) It can be linked to, or returned as the result of a user interface action, without being embedded in anything else. In this case it is a Web page by definition. What determines whether it counts as a Web page or not is how it is used. The ambiguity lies in the failure to specify what should be taken into account in ascertaining how a resource is used for the purpose of applying the definition. This has conformance-related consequences. Suppose for example that, on your Web site, a particular image is embedded in an XHTML document (using the IMG element or the SRC attribute of XHTML 2.0). For purposes of your conformance claim, it is embedded in another resource, and hence not a Web page. Assume further that on my Web site, the same image (at the same URI) is referenced, but only as a link, and is therefore not embedded in another resource. If we interpret the \"not embedded in another resource\" requirement as meaning \"not embedded in another resource anywhere on the Web\" then for purposes of the conformance claim covering my Web site, the image is not a distinct \"Web page\". However, if we interpret \"not embedded in another resource\" as applying only to a \"set of Web pages\" as defined in WCAG 2.0, then it appears that the image is a Web page for purposes of my conformance claim (because it\'s never embeded in any of my content), but is not a Web page for purposes of your conformance claim (as it is embedded in one of your other resources). Under this interpretation, it appears that my Web site will have conformance difficulties, if the image format does not support the inclusion of text alternatives, titles, etc., and the image thus cannot conform to WCAG 2.0 as an independent entity. The same problem arises if the image format does support text alternatives but you haven\'t supplied one in the image itself, whereas (let\'s assume) you have supplied one as part of the page in which the image is embedded. In both cases, the image is a \"Web page\" for purposes of my content, but not for purposes of yours, and my Web site as a whole doesn\'t conform to WCAG 2.0. However, if WCAG were to adopt the first interpretation mentioned above, whereby a resource is \"not embedded in another resource\" only when it is not so embedded anywhere whatsoever, then it appears that the conformance attained by my Web site, given the above scenario, now depends on whether anybody else\'s Web site embeds the image in another resource. Hence, the conformance of my site depends on other peoples\' actions, totally unrelated to my content, and this doesn\'t seem satisfactory either. Proposed Change: I haven\'t thought of a good solution, since as shown above, both of the obvious answers have problems. Moreover, the kind of scenario that results in this difficulty could actually occur in practice: all that needs to happen for example is for one Web site to link directly to an image (or other embeddable resource) on another site, instead of linking to the page of the other site in which it is embedded.
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