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Your comments on WCAG 2.0 Last Call Draft of April 2006

From: Loretta Guarino Reid <lorettaguarino@google.com>
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 16:35:45 -0700
Message-ID: <824e742c0705171635x32a58f09ra530e164777ebdbc@mail.gmail.com>
To: "Jacques Pyrat" <jacques.pyrat@laposte.net>
Cc: public-comments-WCAG20@w3.org

Dear Jacques Pyrat ,

Thank you for your comments on the 2006 Last Call Working Draft of the
Web Content Accessibility Guidelines 2.0 (WCAG 2.0
http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-WCAG20-20060427/). We appreciate the
interest that you have taken in these guidelines.

We apologize for the delay in getting back to you. We received many
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Thank you,

Loretta Guarino Reid, WCAG WG Co-Chair
Gregg Vanderheiden, WCAG WG Co-Chair
Michael Cooper, WCAG WG Staff Contact

On behalf of the WCAG Working Group

Comment 1:

Source: http://www.w3.org/mid/01b701c67e58$03a71060$0300a8c0@dave
(Issue ID: LC-600)

Comment (including rationale for any proposed change):

As far as I understand http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20-TECHS/#N100C7 (or
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/tohellwithwcag2 which translate it
into point 12 :  CSS layouts, particularly those with
absolutely-positioned elements that are removed from the document
flow, may simply be  prohibited at the highest level. In fact, source
order must match presentation order even at the lowest level. , I
can't agree with that.

Proposed Change:

http://blog.html.it/layoutgala/ shows 40 design based on the same
markup, but with differents visual apparences and ordering. It is
accessible! Accessibility means that the content must be
*understandable* without the CSS, not that it should be presented in
the same order.

Response from Working Group:

Failure 1 does not prohibit CSS layouts generally: it only prohibits
CSS layouts that change the meaning of the content. For example,
positioning a navigation bar does not change the mearning of the

We have revised the last sentence of the description of this technique
to make this clearer. It now reads, "Thus, it is important not to rely
on CSS to visually position content in a specific sequence if this
sequence results in a meaning that is different from the
programmatically determined reading order."
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