- From: Loretta Guarino Reid <lorettaguarino@google.com>
- Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 16:34:47 -0700
- To: "Greg Lowney" <gcl-0039@access-research.org>
- Cc: public-comments-WCAG20@w3.org
Comment 30: Source: http://www.w3.org/mid/001501c59b26$aaec1bb0$6800a8c0@lucky13 (Issue ID: LC-1175) Definition of ACRONYM is defined incorrectly as an "abbreviation made from the initial letters", but it should be "abbreviation made from non-contiguous letters of a name or phrase". These are usually the initial letters, but not always; the name being abbreviated is usually made up of more than one word, but not always; and the acronym sometimes contains extra letters that don't occur in the original phrase, but are added in to aid in pronunciation. Proposed Change: Change to "abbreviation made from non-contiguous letters of a name or phrase". ---------------------------- Response from Working Group: ---------------------------- We have revised the definition to read, "abbreviated form made from the initial letters or parts of other words (in a name or phrase) which may be pronounced as a word." ---------------------------------------------------------- Comment 31: Source: http://www.w3.org/mid/001501c59b26$aaec1bb0$6800a8c0@lucky13 (Issue ID: LC-1176) Definition of ALTERNATE VERSION is defined using the term "functionality", which should be a link to that definition. Proposed Change: Make the word "functionality" a link to that definition. ---------------------------- Response from Working Group: ---------------------------- The draft has been updated as proposed. ---------------------------------------------------------- Comment 32: Source: http://www.w3.org/mid/001501c59b26$aaec1bb0$6800a8c0@lucky13 (Issue ID: LC-1177) Definition of API is defined as "definitions of how communication may take place between applications", but that should be "between application or software components", as most API are used between components that are not applications, and we don't want to limit our discussion to only those API that are between one application and another. Proposed Change: Change to "definitions of how communication may take place between applications or software components". ---------------------------- Response from Working Group: ---------------------------- Application Programming Interface (API) is now defined: "definitions of how communication may take place between applications". See http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#apidef . ---------------------------------------------------------- Comment 33: Source: http://www.w3.org/mid/001501c59b26$aaec1bb0$6800a8c0@lucky13 (Issue ID: LC-1178) Definition of ASSISTIVE TECHNOLOGY is defined as "a user agent that: 1... 2 ..."; in all cases where a list of criteria is presented, it should be made explicit whether the relationship between the elements in the list is AND or OR. Proposed Change: Change "a user agent that:" to "a user agent that both:". Change "monitoring APIs." to "monitoring APIs, and". ---------------------------- Response from Working Group: ---------------------------- The draft has been updated as proposed. ---------------------------------------------------------- Comment 34: Source: http://www.w3.org/mid/001501c59b26$aaec1bb0$6800a8c0@lucky13 (Issue ID: LC-1179) Definition of AUTHORED UNIT should be reviewed to make sure that it agrees, at a technical level, with the committee's intention. Currently it seems ambiguous about whether a Web unit is one type of authored unit, or whether an authored unit must consist of more than one Web units. Similarly, it is ambiguous about whether a subset of the content on a Web unit (e.g. a paragraph) written by a separate author than the surrounding content, is an authored unit. Finally, it clearly implies that a set of Web units written by multiple authors but intended to be used together as a set would not be an authored unit. Are those all correct interpretations? ---------------------------- Response from Working Group: ---------------------------- We have reformulated the success criteria and glossary to remove both "authored unit" and "authored component" from the guidelines. 3.2.2 On Input: Changing the setting of any user interface component does not automatically cause a change of context unless the user has been advised of the behavior before using the component. ---------------------------------------------------------- Comment 35: Source: http://www.w3.org/mid/001501c59b26$aaec1bb0$6800a8c0@lucky13 (Issue ID: LC-1180) Definition of CONTENT currently reads ""information to be communicated to the user by means of a user agent"" and has a Note which reads ""This includes the code and markup that define the structure, presentation, and interaction, as well as text, images, and sounds that convey information to the end-user."". Content is defined as being limited to ""information"", but the definition of ""information"" seems to exclude purely decorative elements and elements who purpose is to create a specific sensory experience; both of those are distinguished from informational content in the document, but seem to clearly be part of the content. That should be acknowledged here. (Content also include controls whose purpose is to gather input from the user, but I guess we don't need to call those out since they must also have some presentation.) Similarly, the Note seemt to say that scripts included in a Web page are part of the content, but these don't fit into the definition of ""information"" as they might respond to user input or other triggers, without having any presentation of their own. Thus, the Note seems to contradict the definitions themselves. It is unfortunate that the document defines ""information"", ""purely decorative elements"", and content ""designed to create a specific sensory experience"" as mutually exclusive, with no term that currently includes them all. I believe that ""content"" should be that term, but it would require broadening the definition of ""content"" beyond just ""information"" or broadening the definition of ""information"". Proposed Change: Change to "information and decorative or sensory elements to be communicated to the user by means of a user agent, as well as code or markup that define the stucture, presentation, and interactions associated with those elements". ---------------------------- Response from Working Group: ---------------------------- We have updated the definition, but have used slightly different wording. The definition now reads, "information and sensory experience to be communicated to the user by means of a user agent, as well as code or markup that define the structure, presentation, and interactions associated with those elements" ---------------------------------------------------------- Comment 36: Source: http://www.w3.org/mid/001501c59b26$aaec1bb0$6800a8c0@lucky13 (Issue ID: LC-1181) Definition of INITIALISM should make it clear that initialisms are not pronounced as words; if they are, they would be acronyms instead of initialisms. (At least, that's how I've heard it explained.) Proposed Change: Add "Note: Initialisms are generally read as strings of individual letters rather than being pronounced as words." ---------------------------- Response from Working Group: ---------------------------- The draft has been updated as proposed. ---------------------------------------------------------- Comment 37: Source: http://www.w3.org/mid/001501c59b26$aaec1bb0$6800a8c0@lucky13 (Issue ID: LC-1182) Definition of LUMINOSITY CONTRAST RATIO assumes that the foreground is text, but one success criterion applies it to non-text content such as diagrams. Proposed Change: Replaced both occurances of "text" with "foreground" in the definition. ---------------------------- Response from Working Group: ---------------------------- We have updated the definition as proposed. ---------------------------------------------------------- Comment 38: Source: http://www.w3.org/mid/001501c59b26$aaec1bb0$6800a8c0@lucky13 (Issue ID: LC-1183) Definition of LUMINOSITY CONTRAST RATIO assumes that the foreground and background are both solid colors; it is unclear how this would be applied when that is not the case, such as when the background is a gradient or image, or when the foreground consists of many colors. A particularly interesting case is when the foreground is anti-aliased, causing different pixels to be different brightness (or, in the case of Microsoft's ClearType technology, even different colors) but all designed to be perceived as a single brightness of a single color. ---------------------------- Response from Working Group: ---------------------------- Thank you, the definition of contrast has been updated to address your concerns. The new definition text is: contrast ratio (L1 + 0.05) / (L2 + 0.05), where * L1 is the relative luminance of the lighter of the foreground or background colors, and * L2 is the relative luminance of the darker of the foreground or background colors. Note 1: Contrast ratios can range from 1 to 21 (commonly written 1:1 to 21:1). Note 2: For dithered colors, use the average values of the colors that are dithered (average R, average G, and average B). Note 3: Text can be evaluated with anti-aliasing turned off. Note 4: Background color is the specified color of content over which the text is to be rendered in normal usage. If no background color is specified, then white is assumed. Note 5: For text displayed over gradients and background images, authors should ensure that sufficient contrast exists for each part of each character in the content. ---------------------------------------------------------- Comment 39: Source: http://www.w3.org/mid/001501c59b26$aaec1bb0$6800a8c0@lucky13 (Issue ID: LC-1184) Definition of NATURAL LANGUAGE is "language used by humans to communicate", but this is so broad that Fortran would be included, as it is a way humans communicate with software. Proposed Change: Change to read "language used by humans to communicate with one another". ---------------------------- Response from Working Group: ---------------------------- The guidelines now use "human language" instead of "natural language". The definition of human language is "language that is spoken, written or signed (visually or tactilely) by humans to communicate with one another". ---------------------------------------------------------- Comment 40: Source: http://www.w3.org/mid/001501c59b26$aaec1bb0$6800a8c0@lucky13 (Issue ID: LC-1185) Definitions of TEXT and NON-TEXT CONTENT is ambiguous about whether an image of text is text or non-text content. Please add clarification. This is a problem because most success criteria are written assuming that "text" is parsable by assistive technology (i.e. not just a picture of characters) (e.g. "text alternatives"), but others seem to only require that "text" be readable by humans (i.e. it can be just an image of characters) (e.g. captions on DVDs). Proposed Change: Add to the definition of non-text content, "Note: This includes images of words and characters that may look like text when viewed with human sight but are not programmatically accessible." ---------------------------- Response from Working Group: ---------------------------- The definition of text and non-text have been changed to remove any ambiguity that the text must be programmatically determinable (see http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#textdef and http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#non-text-contentdef ). text sequence of characters that can be programmatically determined, where the sequence is expressing something in human language non-text content any content that is not a sequence of characters that can be programmatically determined or where the sequence is not expressing something in human language Note: This includes ASCII Art (which is a pattern of characters) and leetspeak (which is character substitution). . ---------------------------------------------------------- Comment 41: Source: http://www.w3.org/mid/001501c59b26$aaec1bb0$6800a8c0@lucky13 (Issue ID: LC-1186) Definition of PRESENTATION says "rendering of the content and structure in a form that can be perceived by the user". This is not technically correct, as (a) it could render just the content, not the structure, (b) it is a form *designed* to be perceived by *a* user. With the current definition, if the user is blind, nothing on the display counts as presentation. Proposed Change: Change to read "rendering of the content and structure in a form designed to be perceived by the user". ---------------------------- Response from Working Group: ---------------------------- The definition has been changed to: "rendering of the content in a form to be perceived by users". ---------------------------------------------------------- Comment 42: Source: http://www.w3.org/mid/001501c59b26$aaec1bb0$6800a8c0@lucky13 (Issue ID: LC-1187) Definitions of GENEAL FLASH THRESHOLD and RED FLASH THRESHOLD each have three criteria, the first of which is a combined area of flashes occurring concurrently and occupying more than one quarter of any 341 x 256 pixel rectangle anywhere on the displayed screen area when the content is viewed at 1024 x 768. Isn't that just another way of saying one quarter of any rectangle that's 1/3 of the screen high and 1/3 of the screen wide? Wouldn't the latter be sound less confusing and easier to test on non-1024x768 screens? Proposed Change: In both GENERAL FLASH THRESHOLD and RED FLASH THRESHOLD, change list item 1 to read "the combined area of flashes occurring concurrently (but not necessarily contiguously) occupies more than one quarter of any rectangular region that is one third of the screen high and one third of the screen wide". ---------------------------- Response from Working Group: ---------------------------- Screen size is not what determines the size of the analysis window. it is angle of view area. So, we have changed the provision to state this and provided the information on what is a good estimate for general Web content as a note. 2.3.1 Three Flashes or Threshold: Content does contain anything that flashes more than three times in any one second period, or the flash is below the general flash threshold and the red flash threshold. 2.3.2 Three Flashes: Content does not contain anything that flashes more than three times in any one second period. http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/#seizure ---------------------------------------------------------- Comment 43: Source: http://www.w3.org/mid/001501c59b26$aaec1bb0$6800a8c0@lucky13 (Issue ID: LC-1188) Definitions of GENEAL FLASH THRESHOLD and RED FLASH THRESHOLD, it might be worth noting, will eventually need to be revised when OLED technology allows for increasing use of very large, animated displays. Picture one big OLED display replacing the sign board in the lobby of a major office building, listing all the businesses and their locations; in this case the user will be focusing their attention on one small area of the large sign, but close enough to read the text easily. In that case, the entire area the user is looking at might be flashing, but it still would not be 1/3 of the screen high and 1/3 of the screen wide.) Proposed Change: In both GENERAL FLASH THRESHOLD and RED FLASH THRESHOLD, append to list item 1, "or designed to occupy a region larger than 6" by 6" on the intended physical display". ---------------------------- Response from Working Group: ---------------------------- Screen size is not what determines the size of the analysis window. It is angle of view area. So, we have changed the provision to state this and provided the information on what is a good estimate for general web content as a note. If the author KNOWS that a larger screen or viewing distance will be used (for example a very large display in a lobby) then they can calculate the size of the area in pixels that they should analyze. ---------------------------------------------------------- Comment 44: Source: http://www.w3.org/mid/001501c59b26$aaec1bb0$6800a8c0@lucky13 (Issue ID: LC-1189) Definition of SPECIFIC SENSORY EXPERIENCE could use an example to help readers understand it. I find it hard to come up with an example that one couldn't argue also performs a function, even if that function is creating a specific sensory experience. Proposed Change: Add "Example: A Web site advertising a horror-themed game plays subtly disturbing music in order to make the user feel a sense of immersion in the theme." (However, one could argue that such music "performs a function" in this case.) ---------------------------- Response from Working Group: ---------------------------- The following has been added to the definition. "Examples include a performance of a flute solo, works of visual art etc. " ---------------------------------------------------------- Comment 45: Source: http://www.w3.org/mid/001501c59b26$aaec1bb0$6800a8c0@lucky13 (Issue ID: LC-1191) Definition of USER AGENT is "any software that retrieves and renders Web content for users". In several places it is emphasized that this includes assistive technology, but this definition seems to exclude many types of assistive technology such as speech recognition used for command-and-control, which neither retrieves nor renders, but does rely on access to the information being rendered. Also, the word "retrieves" seems to imply fetching from some remote source (e.g. over the Web), which would exclude screen readers; on the other hand, "retrieves" could be taken to mean getting the data from anywhere, including from another user agent, but by that interpretation a display driver would count as assistive technology. Proposed Change: Change to read "any software that retrieves and renders Web content for users, or manipulates such content to assist the user in using the Web content or controls" ---------------------------- Response from Working Group: ---------------------------- The current wording is taken from UAAG and the proposed wording is not sufficiently different to warrant changing the UAAG definition. Most of what was added could be interpreted as part of rendering the content.
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