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[VER1] Agenda: WS-Policy WG telcon 26 - 2007-02-07

From: Christopher B Ferris <chrisfer@us.ibm.com>
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 10:29:39 -0500
To: public-ws-policy@w3.org
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Agenda: WS-Policy WG distributed meeting 26 - 2007-02-07

The phone number to use for the WS-Policy WG F2F is documented on the WG's 
administrative home page:
http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/policy/admin#phone

Participants are invited to join IRC channel #ws-policy as documented on 
the WG's administrative home page. Please register with Zakim:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-policy/2006Aug/0012.html

1. Roll call and selection of secretary, Chair

a) Scribe List:

Sergey Beryozkin (Secretary for Feb 7)
Dimitar Angelov
Sanjiva Weerawarana
Ruchith Fernando
Jeffrey Crump
Tom Jordahl
Vladislav Bezrukov
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Jeff Mischkinsky
Abbie Barbir
Ashok Malhotra
Charlton Barreto
Sanka Samaranayake
David Orchard
Yakov Sverdlov
Ümit Yalçinalp
Asir Vedamuthu
Maryann Hondo
Dale Moberg
Chris Ferris
Mark Little
Monica Martin
Glen Daniels
William Henry
Toufic Boubez
Frederick Hirsch
Felix Sasaki
Prasad Yendluri
Anthony Nadalin
Daniel Roth
Fabian Ritzmann

b) Scribe FAQ (Updated)
Member only:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-policy/2006Oct/0001.html

2. Review and approval of f2f and telcon minutes, Chair

a) Review and approval of 2007-01-31 minutes
Draft minutes (member only):
http://www.w3.org/2007/01/31-ws-policy-minutes.html

b) Review and approval of 2007-01-16, 2007-01-17, 2007-01-18 minutes, 
Chair
Draft minutes (member only):
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-policy/2007Jan/0014.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-policy/2007Jan/0015.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-policy/2007Jan/0017.html
Status: See Umit's requested correction:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-policy/2007Feb/0000.html

3. Future WG meetings, Chair

a) Next distributed meeting is Wed Feb 14 - Chair is PaulC

b) Future meetings
http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/policy/admin#meetings

c) Tue-Thu Mar 13-15 F2F meeting in Santa Clara hosted by webMethods
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-policy/2007Jan/0000.html
http://www.w3.org/2007/03/ws-policy-f2f-logistics.html
Note: Please register as early as possible.

d) Wed-Fri May 23-25 F2F meeting in Ottawa hosted by Nortel
http://www.w3.org/2007/05/ws-policy-f2f-logistics.html
Note: Logistics page is not yet available.

e) Tue-Thu Jul 24-26 F2F meeting in Dublin hosted by Iona
http://www.w3.org/2007/07/ws-policy-f2f-logistics.html
Note: Logistics page is not yet available.

ACTION-189  William Henry to put a proposal page for the July F2F in 
Ireland

4. Editorial team report
Current Editors drafts:
http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/policy/#drafts

a) WS-Policy Candidate Recommendation Editor's drafts, Editors
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0208.html
Status: WG members have until Wed Feb 7 to review these documents.

5. Review action items, Chair
Open action items:
Member only:
http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/wspolicy/actions/open


ACTION-183      OPEN    Research ownership of "Contoso" 
name/trademark.[4103]   Asir Vedamuthu  2007-02-06
ACTION-189      OPEN    Put a proposal page for the July F2F in Ireland 
William Henry   2007-02-27
ACTION-192      OPEN    Give proposal for changes resulting from 4142 
Maryann Hondo   2007-01-23
ACTION-193      OPEN    Propse guidelines text. Maryann and Monica to 
help.   Ashok Malhotra  2007-01-23
ACTION-196      OPEN    to add example outlined in e 
http://www.w3.org/2007/01/16-ws-policy-irc#T22-21-59 to be added to primer 
        Frederick Hirsch        2007-01-30
ACTION-201      OPEN    Create a concrete proposal for 4255     William 
Henry   2007-02-07
ACTION-202      OPEN    Followup with the SX TC if they are requesting 
additional time to do LC review for policy      Christopher Ferris 
2007-01-25
ACTION-203      OPEN    Will create test cases for xml:id       Felix 
Sasaki  2007-02-07
ACTION-204      OPEN    Will create test cases for xml:base Christopher 
Ferris  2007-02-07
ACTION-209      OPEN    glendaniels will create test cases for the policy 
MIME type, see 
http://www.w3.org/2007/01/18-ws-policy-minutes.html#action06    Glen 
Daniels         2007-02-07
ACTION-210      OPEN    Update the meeting schedule at the admin HP Felix 
Sasaki  2007-02-07
ACTION-211      OPEN    to create test cases for features 37 and 38 on 
UDDI    Prasad Yendluri         2007-02-14
ACTION-212      OPEN    to determine the UDDI scenarios CitiGroup can 
cover   Mark Temple-Raston      2007-02-07
ACTION-213      OPEN    Find an owner for feature 22    Christopher Ferris 
        2007-02-07
ACTION-214      OPEN    Ask Ashok if he takes on feature 23     Paul 
Cotton  2007-02-07
ACTION-215      OPEN    Find out who within IBM is answering 4251 Maryann 
Hondo   2007-02-07
ACTION-216      OPEN    Propose text for primer or guideline for issue 
4212    Umit Yalcinalp  2007-02-07
ACTION-217      OPEN    And Monica to amend issue 4288  Maryann Hondo 
2007-02-07
ACTION-218      OPEN    And Maryann to provide text for subject attachment 
Extensibility in guidelines     Umit Yalcinalp  2007-02-07

6. Liaison items

None.

7. Exiting Last Call

a) WS-Policy Framework proposed CR WD
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2006/ws/policy/ws-policy-framework.html?rev=1.95&content-type=text/html;%20charset=utf-8&only_with_tag=Editors-Draft-24-January-2007

b) WS-Policy Attachment proposed CR WD
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2006/ws/policy/ws-policy-attachment.html?rev=1.85&content-type=text/html;%20charset=utf-8&only_with_tag=Editors-Draft-24-January-2007

c) WG comments on proposed CR WDs

d) WG decision to exit Last Call and request transition to CR

8. WS-Policy Call for Implementations, Chair

a) W3C Process 7.4.3 Call for Implementations (aka Candidate 
Recommendation)
http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/tr.html#cfi
Status: our CFI must cover the following items:

i) the Working Group SHOULD include a report of present and expected 
implementations as part of the request.

ii) the Working Group MAY identify specific features of the technical 
report as being "features at risk"

iii) The request to the Director to advance a technical report to 
Candidate Recommendation MUST indicate whether the Working Group expects 
to satisfy any Proposed Recommendation entrance criteria beyond the 
default requirements

Default PR criteria are: Shown that each feature of the technical report 
has been implemented. Preferably, the Working Group SHOULD be able to 
demonstrate two interoperable implementations of each feature.

iv)  The announcement MUST indicate a minimal duration, before which the 
Working Group MUST NOT request a Call for Review of a Proposed 
Recommendation; this minimal duration is designed to allow time for 
comment.

v) The announcement SHOULD also include the Working Group's estimate of 
the time expected to gather sufficient implementation data.

9. CR interop scenarios and testing

a) WS-Policy Features and Interop Scenarios, Asir
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0143.html

b) Revised Interop Scenarios, IBM and MSFT
<URL to be provided>

c) ACTION-203 Felix will create test cases for xml:id

d) ACTION-204 Chris will create test cases for xml:base

e) ACTION-209  Glen Daniels will create test cases for the policy MIME 
type

f) UDDI scenario and test cases, Prasad
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0196.html
ACTION-211      OPEN    to create test cases for features 37 and 38 on 
UDDI    Prasad Yendluri         2007-02-14
ACTION-212      OPEN    to determine the UDDI scenarios CitiGroup can 
cover   Mark Temple-Raston      2007-02-07

g) Adding negative test cases, Chris F
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0199.html

h) Outstanding test cases, Chair

10. WSDL 1.1 Element Identifiers

a) Issue 4251  Change syntax for some WSDL 1.1 identifiers
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4251
Ashok's proposal:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0169.html
David's correction:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0180.html
Status: At the F2F meeting WG members asked for more time to consider this 
matter.

11. Primer issues

a) [NEW ISSUE] 4103 Questionable use of Contoso Ltd in Primer, Chris 
Ferris
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4103
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0077.html
See thread ending at:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0102.html
Status: Asir has action 183

ACTION-183 OPEN Research ownership of "Contoso" name/trademark. Asir 
Vedamuthu 2007-01-10

b) [NEW ISSUE] 4263: Add text to ignorable discussion on passing ignorable 
property of assertion to domain specific processing
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4263

c) [NEW ISSUE] 4212, 4213 Use of empty policy for nesting should be 
exemplified
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0100.html
ACTION-216      OPEN    Propose text for primer or guideline for issue 
4212    Umit Yalcinalp  2007-02-07

d) [NEW ISSUE] 4255: Section 2.9 should also explain basic attaching
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4255

e) Issue 4195

ACTION-196 Frederick to add example outlined in
http://www.w3.org/2007/01/16-ws-policy-irc#T22-21-59 to be added to primer

f) Issue 4288 - Primer: Absence of Policy Assertions (editorial), Monica
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0214.html
ACTION-217      OPEN    And Monica to amend issue 4288  Maryann Hondo 
2007-02-07

12. Guidelines issues

a) ISSUE 3987: Section 5.9 - Lifecycle of Assertions?, Asir
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3987
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0111.html

b) ISSUE 4035: [ Guidelines] Section 2 should account for interop impact 
of non-wire or one-party assertions and ignorable property
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4035
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0007.html

c) ISSUE 4072: Statements not relevant to assertion design, Dan
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4072
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0046.html
Fabian's response:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0063.html

d) ISSUE 3979: Clarify the guidance in section 5.9.1 on referencing policy 
expressions, Dan Roth
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3979
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0104.html

ACTION-164 Try to write up alternative text that takes into consideration 
today\\'s discussion on issue 3979 DONE. See:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0071.html

e) ISSUE 4073: Free standing statements, Asir
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4073
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0049.html

f) ISSUE 4074: Collection of unclear Guidance or text issues, Dan
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4074
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0053.html
See exchange between Dan and Umit at:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0085.html

g) ISSUE 4040: [Guidelines] Update guidelines to include discussion of 
ignorable, Frederick http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4040
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0025.html

h) ISSUE 3978: Clarify if Section 7 on defining new policy attachment 
mechanisms is necessary, Dan Roth
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3978
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0102.html
Maryann's response:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0131.html

i) ISSUE 3989: Suggested format for the Guidelines document., Asir
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3989
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0113.html
Maryann's response:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0132.html
Asir:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0139.html
Umit:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0141.html

j) ISSUE 3988: Section 8 doesn't illustrate how to design an assertion., 
Asir
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3988
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0112.html
Email discussion thread:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0000.html

k) ISSUE 4074: [Guidelines] Collection of unclear Guidance or text issues, 
Dan
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4074
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0053.html

l) ISSUE 3981: What is the relevance of Section 4 'Authoring Styles' to 
policy assertion design?, Asir
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3981
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0107.html

m) ISSUE 3990: Content in Section 5.7 is unclear, Dan Roth 
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3990
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0114.html

n) [NEW ISSUE] 4198: Policy assertion semantics independent of attachment 
mechanism
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4198
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jan/0083.html
ACTION-218      OPEN    And Maryann to provide text for subject attachment 
Extensibility in guidelines     Umit Yalcinalp  2007-02-07

o) [NEW ISSUE] 4262 Use of @wsp:optional and @wsp:Ignorable on t...
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4262

Christopher Ferris
STSM, Software Group Standards Strategy
email: chrisfer@us.ibm.com
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