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Re: How to refer to place of document, which is not marked by author!?

From: Mike Schinkel <w3c-lists@mikeschinkel.com>
Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 04:04:52 -0400
Message-ID: <46330024.5030807@mikeschinkel.com>
To: Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>
CC: public-html@w3.org

Maciej Stachowiak wrote:
>
> I imagine XPointer would work on the DOM, so it doesn't matter how the 
> document was initially parsed.

I think it would be incredibly beneficial if some method were made that 
would allow for use of (something) XPointer(-like) in browsers today.

>
> (Side note: when people here say "tag soup" do they mean 
> "non-conforming HTML" or "any HTML"? I can't really tell from general 
> usage of the term. I always assumed it specifically meant 
> non-conforming or otherwise "bad" markup, but people seem to use it as 
> a dismissive way to refer to anything in HTML syntax.)

Can't speak for others, but I meant "non-conforming HTML", but since you 
can't generically know which is which form a URL, it is effectively "any 
HTML."

>
>>   And is what use is it (in the HTMLWG context) if neither IE7 nor 
>> FF2 see fit to implement it?
>> Shouldn't it be better to look at something that would become part of 
>> the HTML spec?
>
> I'd guess if browsers have not implemented it, it's because they have 
> not seen significant demand for anything but id (or anchor name) 
> fragment addressing, not because they dislike the syntax details. So I 
> don't think designing a second technology to do the same thing would 
> be helpful.

Oh, I'm not suggesting a new technology, just that if it can be 
implemented that it is implemented. What I'd especially like is 
something that can be used to identify not just a location in a document 
put also a segment of a document and maybe browsers could implement 
displaying the rest of the document in a reserve highlight.

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