TELECON AGENDA - 11 JULY 2007

Regrets: MarkS

Previous minutes: IRC log only
IRC supplement: http://www.w3.org/2007/07/04-forms-minutes.html

Minute takers rotation list, when not done by Leigh:
Erik, Susan, Joern, Dave, Ulrich, Blake, Nick, Kenneth, 
Rogelio, David, Rafael, MarkB, Keith, Charlie, MarkS, 
Raman, Sebastian, Lars

AGENDA ITEMS:
=============

REPORTS (* as needed)
=====================

* Coming calls
Summer Questionnaire: http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/32219/xformssummer07/
Chairing in latter part of August

* Next FtF - Hosted by SATEC September 12 to 14, 2007
Attendance Questionnaire: http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/34637/ftfsept2007/
FtF overview page needed for public WG page

* XForms 1.0 Third Edition
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jun/0013.html
Add version erratum?

* XForms 1.1
To add an issue from www-forms-editor, forward to 
xforms-issues@mn.aptest.com
? How does it know who the originator is, and what if message is gone from 
my inbox?
To search last call issues and add bugs, see 
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/
For last call issues admin, use http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/xforms-issues/ 
(after getting an account)

XForms Basic 1.0, 1.1

Backplane
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-forms/2007JanMar/0165.html

* XForms Conference at XML Conference
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jul/0036.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jul/0024.html

Easy XForms apps that could be made public

* XForms 1.2/Transitional
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jul/0022.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-forms/2007JanMar/0173.html

* Forms Joint Task Force with HTML WG
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jun/0070.html

* Latest Action Item List:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jul/0035.html
Any progress?

Action item rotation list (when no volunteers):
Dave, Erik, Jan, Joern, John, Kenneth, Lars, Leigh, MarkB, 
MarkS, Nick, Rafael, Raman, Rogelio, Sebastian, Steven, 
Susan, Ulrich, Blake, Charlie


ISSUES for XForms 1.0 and 1.1
=============================
Add scripts to XForms input-mode script list... again
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Appendices?id=151;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
What is the diff with issue 106?  Can we trash this one?

Remove homogeneous collection... again
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/UI?id=26;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
This is the same request as id=3, which was approved but there is no 
action item for it

Purely Editorial Last Call Issues
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Controls?id=91;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Model?id=127;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/UI?id=23;user=guest;statetype=-1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Last Call Issues Needing Approval of Proposed Resolution:
---------------------------------------------------------
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Submission?id=103;user=guest;statetype=4;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Submission?id=76;user=guest;statetype=4;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Submission?id=77;user=guest;statetype=4;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Submission?id=78;user=guest;statetype=4;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Submission?id=80;user=guest;statetype=4;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Submission?id=81;user=guest;statetype=4;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Submission?id=83;user=guest;statetype=4;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Misc?id=15;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=67;user=guest;statetype=4;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=68;user=guest;statetype=4;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=70;user=guest;statetype=4;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=71;user=guest;statetype=4;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Misc?id=124;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Misc?id=125;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Misc?id=126;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Last Call Issues Open and Ready for Consideration:
--------------------------------------------------
Let required and other MIPs affect UI control rendition
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/MIPs?id=102;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Issues with sending value changed and MIP events
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Events?id=29;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Events?id=50;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Issues with the use of xforms-binding-exception and 
xforms-compute-exception
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Events?id=36;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Need to define meaning of focus event on container form controls
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Events?id=155;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Nillable complex type with simple content
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Types?id=92;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Problems with dateTimeDuration and yearMonthDuration
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Types?id=7;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Types?id=137;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Issues with datatype validation
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Model?id=85;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Model?id=86;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Model?id=87;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Problems with binding expressions changing the evaluation context of other 
attributes
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Model?id=28;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Model I18N Issues
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Model?id=8;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Model?id=13;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

XForms select issues
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Controls?id=88;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Controls?id=89;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Controls?id=90;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Issues with functions
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=12;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=11;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=63;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=69;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=65;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=145;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=146;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=147;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Interaction with XPath 2.0
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=140;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=141;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=143;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=144;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=149;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Issues with accessing XForms from Scripts
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=33;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=156;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Things wrong with 7.5
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=41;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=142;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

More possible errors for XPaths
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=139;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Repeat Index Issues
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/UI?id=21;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/UI?id=24;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Treatment of Event Handlers inside Repeated Content
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/UI?id=153;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Misc: Need overview of 1.1 diffs and submission examples
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Misc?id=5;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Misc I18N Issues
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Misc?id=9;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Human Readable Resource Identifiers
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Misc?id=38;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Misc Editorial
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Misc?id=53;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Submission Editorial
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Submission?id=46;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Submission: Problem of requiring order of submission children
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Submission?id=4;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Submission: Problems for verb
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Submission?id=103;user=guest;statetype=1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1


Last Call Issues Approved, Awaiting Implementation:
---------------------------------------------------
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Events?id=18;user=guest;statetype=4;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Events?id=60;user=guest;statetype=4;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Controls?id=73;user=guest;statetype=4;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/MIPs?id=82;user=guest;statetype=4;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Types?id=97;user=guest;statetype=4;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

Requirement to support dynamic dependencies in UI bindings
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jul/0030.html

Issues with 7.5
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007May/0010.html

Instance replacement fix needed
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007May/0081.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007May/0065.html

Non-selected case and non-relevant group
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jun/0051.html

Events on startup; events for other UI creation scenarios
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007May/0088.html

Remarks about xf:insert in XForms 1.1
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Mar/0005.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Mar/0008.html
* Resolved May 16 for John or Erik to deal with, but no action item

Remove unnecessary decision about where to insert nodes
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-forms/2007JanMar/0111.html

Remove sibling attribute insertion
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-forms/2007JanMar/0114.html

Minor fix to effect of multiple node insertion on repeat indexes
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-forms/2007JanMar/0115.html

Blank value and xforms:select
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jun/0002.html

xforms:select storage
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jun/0003.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jun/0001.html

Required but empty
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jun/0004.html

Strict and lax schema validation
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007May/0097.html

Schema algorithms
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007May/0096.html

Nillable complex type with simple content
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jun/0009.html

Comments on if function from Michael Kay
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2006Dec/0062.html

Issues with deleting the context node
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Feb/0027.html
This was discussed April 4 
(http://www.w3.org/2007/04/04-xforms-minutes.html#item08),
but minutes record no resolution or action.

Issues that have resurfaced but are technically out of scope
------------------------------------------------------------
Discuss 'Better definition of Form Control'

Issues with select1
1) Does a select1 visually multiselect?
2) Handling of simultaneous matching a copy item and an empty value item


ISSUES not yet categorized by version
=====================================


ISSUES for XForms 1.2, 2.0 and Beyond
=====================================

The meaning of 'form control' needs to be more rigorously defined. 
Sometimes
it includes one, some or all of repeat, group and switch.

Tighten definition of form control to fix numerous problems,
including problem of targeting help/hint at item elements
(declared and generated by nodeset)


Problem with incremental attribute setting for selection="open" 
select1/select controls
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2006Sep/0098.html

The meaning of message
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Jan/0013.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Jan/0012.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Jan/0011.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Jan/0010.html

The repeat-* attributes
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-forms/2006OctDec/0232.html

Meaning of repeated content
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-forms/2006JulSep/0212.html

We should allow the result of calculate to
be cast according to the assigned datatype,
e.g. no need to call boolean-from-string() if 
calculate assigns to a boolean node.

Single-Node Binding and UICommon* on case element
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2006Sep/0092.html

Better align case with group and switch with select1
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2006Sep/0115.html

Repeat and page view
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2006Aug/0090.html

Extended Actions
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-forms/2006JulSep/0073

multiple schemas targeting same namespace (unresolved when discussed at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-forms/2006JulSep/att-0109/20060726.html#topic15)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-forms/2006JanMar/0348
  http://www.oxygenxml.com/archives/xml-dev/200209/msg00091.html
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2002Aug/0102.html
COMMENT: The spec restricts a model to one schema per namespace

Put @mediatype on textarea

Parallel trees
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms-editor/2007Apr/0002.html

Need to distinguish types of bindings
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Jun/0099.html

See Future Featuers.


The Next Face-to-face AGENDA
===================================================

(Agenda ends)

=============================================

[[Magic for irc channel:

/invite zakim
/invite rrsagent
zakim, this will be forms
Meeting: Weekly Forms WG Teleconference
Agenda: <url of this message>
Chair: <whoever>
Scribe: <whoever> (use exact IRC name, or add "scribenick: irc_name")
Regrets: <name>, <name>, ...
Topic: <topic 1>
... minutes ...
Resolution: ... resolution ...
Topic: <topic 2>
...
ACTION: <someone> to <something>
...

Use sed edits to fix previous lines, like s/Steve/Steven/

*** AT THE END OF THE CALL, rrsagent will list the actions by typing
actions?

*** Zakim will announce who was present by typing
zakim, bye

*** rrsagent will make the minutes available to members by typing
rrsagent, make log member

*** rrsagent dismissal
rrsagent, make minutes
rrsagent, bye

*** If someone by chance dismisses rrsagent before the minutes
*** are made, just invite rrsagent back

]]

Received on Tuesday, 10 July 2007 23:53:17 UTC