- From: <noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com>
- Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 17:22:40 -0400
- To: michael.mahan@nokia.com, xml-dist-app@w3.org
I am in a meeting and have not reviewed Michael's text in as much detail as I should have, so my response may have been confusing. Seeing the reference to XML 1.1 I thought he was carrying over all the text that was including XML 1.1 support in the encoding and datamodel. I see that's not true...sorry for the confusion. Let me clarify: I'm on the fence as to whether we need to make any changes at all to the encoding and data model to mark the emergence of XML 1.1. At worst, without the changes he proposes, the data model might be taken to allow XML 1.1 content, but not be serializable in SOAP. Either way is OK with me: if we want to call out text along the lines of what Michael proposes I have no problem with that. Alternately, I think I could easily live with no changes to the rec in this area, as suggested below. Sorry for the confusion. -------------------------------------- Noah Mendelsohn IBM Corporation One Rogers Street Cambridge, MA 02142 1-617-693-4036 -------------------------------------- Noah Mendelsohn 05/18/2004 04:58 PM To: <michael.mahan@nokia.com> cc: xml-dist-app@w3.org Subject: Re: Proposed text for issues rec20 and rec22 - Part 2 Isn't all of this overtaken by our decision >NOT< to allow XML 1.1 in SOAP Infosets? I can't think of any reason we need changes to part 2. -------------------------------------- Noah Mendelsohn IBM Corporation One Rogers Street Cambridge, MA 02142 1-617-693-4036 -------------------------------------- <michael.mahan@nokia.com> Sent by: xml-dist-app-request@w3.org 05/18/2004 03:02 PM To: <xml-dist-app@w3.org> cc: (bcc: Noah Mendelsohn/Cambridge/IBM) Subject: Proposed text for issues rec20 and rec22 - Part 2 The following is my action item results to consolidate and address the outstanding part 2 rec 20 issues in respect to the new position the WG has taken regarding XML 1.1. r, Mike ====================== 3.1.2 Encoding Simple Values <current> The lexical value of a graph node representing a simple value is the sequence of Unicode characters identified by the character information item children of the element information item representing that node. The element information item representing a simple value node MAY have among its attributes a 'nodeType' attribute information item (see 3.1.7 nodeType Attribute Information Item). Note that certain Unicode characters cannot be represented in XML (see XML 1.0 [XML 1.0]). </current> <proposed> The lexical value of a graph node representing a simple value is the sequence of Unicode characters identified by the character information item children of the element information item representing that node. The element information item representing a simple value node MAY have among its attributes a 'nodeType' attribute information item (see 3.1.7 nodeType Attribute Information Item). Note that certain Unicode characters cannot be represented in XML (see XML 1.0 [XML 1.0] >,[ref to XML 1.1]<). </proposed> ====================== 2. SOAP Data Model <current> The SOAP Data Model represents application-defined data structures and values as a directed edge-labeled graph of nodes. Components of this graph are described in the following sections. </current> <proposed> The SOAP Data Model represents application-defined data structures and values as a directed edge-labeled graph of nodes. Components of this graph are described in the following sections. >Note that the SOAP Data Model is based on the XML Infoset that is serializable in XML 1.0 and as such does not support any of the parts of XML 1.1 that is inconsistent with that Infoset.< </proposed> I think this covers Noah's issues [1] in sections - 2.1.1 - 2.2, 2.3 - 3.1.3 ======================= <issue> 3.1.4 [5] discusses computing type names. We might want to make clear that, unless XML schema is revised, type names cannot have >XML 1.0 names. Ref to schema recommendation. </issue> <open> not sure what to propose here </open> ======================= <issue> 4.2.1 [6] on RPC invocation defers to appendix B on name mapping [7], which in turn refers to the [8] 1999 version of namespaces. Probably not broken in an XML 1.1 world, but arguably surprising or confusing. Consider an RPC method name that has a character that is not a legal name character in the 1999 version of namespaces, but is legal according to the newer and also current "Namespaces in XML 1.1" [9]. Per our recommendation, that method name should be escaped, even if you are using XML 1.1. As I say, not broken but confusing. </issue> <recommendation> I think this is now a non-issue. All RPC method names would have to derive from an XML 1.0 serializeable Infoset. </recommendation> ======================= [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-dist-app/2004May/0004.html
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