- From: Dave Winer <dave@userland.com>
- Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 17:47:51 -0700
- To: <soapbuilders@yahoogroups.com>, "Henrik Frystyk Nielsen" <henrikn@microsoft.com>, "Simon Fell" <soap@zaks.demon.co.uk>, <xml-dist-app@w3.org>, <xmlp-comments@w3.org>
We're talking about SOAP 1.1, last I heard, we don't publish WSDL. Maybe you should switch perspectives and imagine a network without WSDL. About Frontier being a "small, closed system" I have no idea what you're talking about but I sure don't like the way it sounds. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "graham glass" <graham-glass@mindspring.com> To: <soapbuilders@yahoogroups.com>; "Henrik Frystyk Nielsen" <henrikn@microsoft.com>; "Simon Fell" <soap@zaks.demon.co.uk>; <xml-dist-app@w3.org>; <xmlp-comments@w3.org> Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 5:48 PM Subject: RE: [soapbuilders] Re: XML Protocol: Proposals to address SOAPAction header > hi guys, > > my issue is still exactly the same as it was 3 months ago. > > based on the current definition, the owner of a SOAP server > cannot count on the SOAPAction having any particular meaning > unless the owner was also the one that generated the WSDL. > > this is fine in a closed, small system, such as frontier > publishing WSDL for its own service and specifying which > SOAPAction it wants, but seems to lose its value when WSDL > is published by vendor X and then an implementation of the > service is hosted on vendor Y's SOAP server. > > from my own perspective, if GLUE hosts a web service > that implements a WSDL published by IBM and IBM decides to > make the SOAPAction "FOOBAR", what can GLUE do this with > value? can it filter based on it? i guess i could, if i > manually program the HTTP server with all the various > SOAPActions from different WSDLs that i want to filter. > > is that the intent - that the SOAPAction fields are > manually entered into some kind of firewall software? > > can i route based on it? no, not if IBM chooses a value > that is not particularly meaningful. i have no control > over what value they use if they happen to set the standard > for that particular web service definition. > > am i totally missing something here? > > i've still yet to see where the SOAPAction value can be > useful in an open environment where the publisher of the > WSDL can basically set it to whatever value they want. > > cheers, > graham > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jake Savin [mailto:jake@userland.com] > Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 7:21 PM > To: Henrik Frystyk Nielsen; Simon Fell; xml-dist-app@w3.org; > xmlp-comments@w3.org > Cc: soapbuilders@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [soapbuilders] Re: XML Protocol: Proposals to address > SOAPAction header > > > Hi Henrik, > > From my point of view, this is a *much* more attractive clarification of the > use of SOAPAction, than the previous proposals (the deprecation or removal > of SOAPAction). > > It addresses some of the ambiguities of the current wording, as well as > avoiding breaking existing implementations and services. > > I endorse it. > > -Jake > > on 6/9/01 10:27 AM, Henrik Frystyk Nielsen at henrikn@microsoft.com wrote: > > > Note that there has been work going on in clarifying the SOAPAction use > > - I would be interested in hearing what you think about that > > > > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-dist-app/2001May/0053.html > > > > Henrik > > > >> If A & B are the only choices they i'd pick B, A is just an > >> interop mess waiting to happen. > >> > >> However, SOAPAction in its current (i.e. SOAP 1.1) form, does > >> serve a useful purpose, my only complaint is that the spec > >> doesn't describe very well how to use it. > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > soapbuilders-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > soapbuilders-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >
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