- From: Jeremy Carroll <jjc@hplb.hpl.hp.com>
- Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 14:07:31 +0000
- To: Jeremy Carroll <jjc@hplb.hpl.hp.com>
- CC: www-webont-wg@w3.org
==== Executive Summary ----------------- DECISION: Issue 5.14 - Ontology versioning RESOLVED: Jeff's mssg dec/0001, with proviso that all properties are labelled as extralogical Vote: 7 for, 7 abstain. CHAIR comment: Open to reopening this issue with alternative proposal. NEW ACTIONS: ACTION Mike Smith to coordinate with Chris about explaining owl:ontology ACTION jjc draft a message for wg consideration as msg to tag about item 4 in Nov/0265 -------- IRC: http://www.w3.org/2002/12/05-webont-irc AGENDA: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Dec/0106.html 1) ADMIN (15 min) 1.1 Role Call Guus Schrieber, Mike Smith, Ian Horrocks, Jeff Heflin, Jos De Roo, Herman ter Horst, Jim Hendler, Marwan Sabbouh, Deb Mcguinness, Mike Dean, Pat Hayes, Jeremy Carroll, Peter Patel-Schneider Jonathan Borden, Nick Gibbons regrets Dale, Wallace, Stanton, Stein regrets COnnolly regrets Eshelman, Hori, Euzenat Regrets: Hellman, van Harmelen, 1.2 Approval of Minutes of Nov 21 call http://www.w3.org/2002/11/21-webont-irc Approved. 1.3 Agenda Amendments None 1.4 Telecon Schedule Next telecons: December 12, 19 1.5 F2F Meeting Manchester Registration page: http://cgi.w3.org/Register/selectUser.pl?_w3c_meetingName=WebontManchester Local arrangements page: http://wonderweb.semanticweb.org/mcr-f2f.shtml Please register, and book in the hotel. Block booking is reserved until 6th Jan Primary goal of f2f5 is to work on implementation report. Last date for input to MCr f2f is 24th December. 1.6 Reminder: Web Ontology Working Group Extension IMPORTANT - all WOWG members are required to "reup" - make sure your AC member signs you back up. 1.7 Webont schedule FTI: Current schedule: - LC to start directly after Man ftf (around Jan 15) - LC period 3-6 weeks - Man ftf and LC period to ne used by WG to gather implementation experiences - odds are low that a WebOnt ftf is required in March at Tech Plenary 2. ISSUES (60 min) Link to issues list: http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/WebOnt/webont-issues.html 2.1 Pending updates: ISSUE 4.3: POSTPONED at Nov 21 telecon ISSUE 5.5; Resolved at Nov 14 telecon ISSUE 5.6: resolved at Nov 14 telecon ISSUE 5.7: should be marked as "POSTPONED" ISSUE 5.19: resolved at Nov 21 telecon (wrong date / resolution link) ISSUE 15.25 resolved ar Nov 21 telecon 2.2 ACTIONS wrt. resolved issues ACTION Chris Welty will work on getting "The meaning of owl:ontology" explained better in Guide, other editors will see if their documents need changing (not obvious they do). ACTION Jeremy to generate test Cases for 5.5. List Syntax or Semantics ACTION Jeff Heflin will produce test cases for owl:imports See also message from Jeremy Carroll: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Nov/0228.html ACTION DanC to provide wording [Concerns Issue 5.9 - malformed D+O restrictions (closed) Dan would like to amend the proposal with some clear instructions to the guide that says "Don't do that". Dan was actioned to write up a few sentences for the guide.] ACTION: Deb/Change feature doc in accorddance with 5.19 resolution (using MikeS's text) ACTION: MikeDean/update reference appropraitely for three sublanguages ACTION: Deb/Change features for three sublanguages All continued. NEW ACTION: Mike Smith to coordinate with Chris about explaining owl:ontology 3.2 OPEN issues [We have six open issues left] ** Issue 5.14 - Ontology versioning [[ ACTION: Jeff to rewrite issue for Dec 5 telecon Done. Jeff's revised proposal to close: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Dec/0001.html plus follo-up discussion thread ]] Discussion about whether they should be in the owl namespace or in some other namespace. Discussion of operational versus formal semantics. Discussion of versionOf (see http://www.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Dec/0002.html ) There was little support for "versionOf", and the idea did not go to the proposed resolution. http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Dec/0001.html RESOLVED: Jeff's mssg dec/0001, with proviso that all properties are labelled as extralogical Vote: 7 for, 7 abstain. ABSTAIN: Carroll, Hayes, Horrocks, Patel-Schneider, McGuiness, De Roo, Sabbouh [There was discussion about the high level of abstention. Some of the abstainers expressed the view that any other resolution would produce dissent]. CHAIR Open to reopening this issue with alternative proposal. ** Issue 5.8 - datatypes [[ See Jeremy's summary of RDF datatyping: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Nov/0223.html ACTION: JimH to signal discussion of RDF Datatypes and Cardinality Peter's proposal http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Nov/0265.html Comment from Jeremy: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Nov/0278.html ]] Difficulties with part 4 of Peter's proposal. Jim proposed approving 1,2, 3 and 5. Jeremy noted that on 3 there are problems with xsd:duration. NEW ACTION jjc draft a message for wg consideration as msg to tag about item 4 in Nov/0265 ** Issue 5.13 - Internet media type for OWL ACTION: chairs, to ask Jonathan Borden re: wording to close 5.13 The mime type includes parameter to indicate entailment mechanism. Discussion curtailed. ** Issue 5.17 - XML presentation syntax [[ Peter's proposal: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Oct/0155.html Comments from Masahiro: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Nov/0290.html ]] Not discussed. ** Issue 5.18 - Unique names assumption [[ ACTION: Dan Connolly to write up the 'all different' proposal for Issue 5.18. ACTION: Chair to followup with Dan C re: Unique names Cf. also Jos's message: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Nov/0041.html ]] Not discussed. ** Issue 15.23: add hasValue to Owl Lite [[ Deb's issue description http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Oct/0196.html plus thread ]] Horrocks cannot live with hasValue in OWL Lite. McGuiness cannot live with it not in OWL Lite. 4) DOCUMENT STATUS (5-10 min) Not reached. 5) AOB (0-5 min.)
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