Minutes of TAG teleconference of 22 March 2012

The minutes of the TAG teleconference of 22 March 2012 are now available at 
[1], and in text-only form below. A few highlights.

* The main topic was proposed changes to the draft agenda  [2] of the F2F. 
What we agreed was:
- At Tim's suggestion, add a possible discussion of native vs. Web applications
- Henry, Jeni and others to advise later in the week whether to broaden the 
scope of the fragids discussion. If they recommend "yes", then various 
sessions will have to be moved.
- Per Jeni's request at [3], I have lengthened the IETF Paris report and 
extended the initial HttpRange14 discussion continue in the hour after the 
morning break

Except for the fragids session, on which I'm awaiting advice, the changes 
are reflected at [2].

Note that the call next week will likely be cancelled, unless there is some 
last-minute F2F planning needed.

Noah

[1] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2012/03/22-minutes.html
[2] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2012/04/02-agenda
[3] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2012Mar/0058.html


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       [1] http://www.w3.org/

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                 W3C TAG Teleconference of 22 March 2012

22 Mar 2012

    [2]Agenda

       [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2012Mar/0075.html

    See also: [3]IRC log

       [3] http://www.w3.org/2012/03/22-tagmem-irc

Attendees

    Present
           Tim Berners-Lee, Ashok Malhotra, Jeni Tennison, Henry
           Thompson, Yves Lafon, Larry Masinter

    Regrets
           Peter, Linss

    Chair
           Noah mendelsohn

    Scribe
           Noah Mendelsohn

Contents

      * [4]Topics
          1. [5]TAG Participation in IETF Paris Meeting
          2. [6]Review of Draft Agenda for TAG F2F
          3. [7]TAG Participation in IETF Paris Meeting (continued)
          4. [8]Probable cancellation of 29 March TAG
             teleconference
      * [9]Summary of Action Items
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TAG Participation in IETF Paris Meeting

    LM: Am I right that I'm the only TAG member at IETF?
    ... Yves is not here? OK, let's wait for him to join the call.

Review of Draft Agenda for TAG F2F

    Draft agenda for F2F is at:
    [10]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2012/04/02-agenda

      [10] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2012/04/02-agenda

    JAR: Could use a long time on httprang3 14, see only an hour

    NM: will give you all you need.

    JAR: Still want to focus on wrapping it up soon.

    NM: On fragids, Jeni wants to broaden to include long dormant
    draft

    HT: Nuts. Good idea in principle, but I can't prep, and not
    sure anyone else can.

    <JeniT> has anyone got any idea about taking that document
    forward?

    <masinter> +1 to broadening topics in order to either progress
    or abandon old drafts

    <JeniT> if not, I'm happy to take it back and publish it on my
    blog or something

    <noah_> Jeni, you're only on IRC right?

    <JeniT> yes

    NM: Just give me guidance later in the week, either way is OK.

    <Yves> Jeni, I am circling around another way to present the
    issues, but it might include braodening a bit the scope

    <JeniT> Yves, worth discussion time at F2F? If not in large
    group then small?

    <Yves> jeni, in small group that would be good to help
    converging yes

    <JeniT> yves, ok, sounds good -- I just want to see progress
    made as it seems that work isn't going anywhere at the moment

    <Yves> yep

    <JeniT> (and I invested time into creating that draft, I would
    like to see something happen to it)

    NM: I'm getting advice both ways as to whether to lock in TBD
    sessions now and whether to have small group breakouts. Larry
    asks me to use my judgement. That being the case, what I'll do
    is:
    ... With apologies to those who prefer I do otherwise, I'll
    leave some sessions TBD for now. If the top priority 10-way
    discussions need the time, they'll get priority, otherwise we
    can use for breakouts.

    TBL: What about a session on Web competing w/native

    NM: I could add to the existing list of "Possible topics"?

TAG Participation in IETF Paris Meeting (continued)

    <masinter> I'm not happy that I'm the only TAG member at IETF

    <masinter> I think there are W3C/IETF liaison issues where the
    TAG seems to me to be the likely group to discuss the W3C
    perspective on IETF specificaitons

    LM: Yves is here, can we discuss IETF?
    ... Am I the only TAG member who will be there?
    ... Topics of interest to the TAG include URNbis, Happyiana and
    registration.
    ... It would seem like within the W3C/IETF liaison there are
    policy issues that are not in scope for particular W3C wgs, so
    would either be TAG/staff or maybe AB.
    ... I'm disappointed that I'm the only TAG person there

    YL: Philippe told me not possible to get free passes

    NM: Can we get an exception, e.g. for Robin?

    YL: He can at least attend unofficial meetings.
    ... There will be W3C staff: Philippe le Hegaret, Thomas
    Roessler, Dominique, and Wendy Selzer

    <masinter> Yves, I have other meetings I need to attend, my
    list to you was specifically those that had to do with TAG
    rather than Adobe

    <masinter> at the IETF

    YL: There will be lots of coordination

    NM: I would encourage you, Yves, to see whether there's
    anything we can do to facilitate Robin attending, should he
    wish to
    ... Larry, anything else?

    LM: No, that's it.

    <Yves> larry, ok, but at least this list was a good starter to
    figure out possible meeting times

    <masinter> sure

Probable cancellation of 29 March TAG teleconference

    NM: Will almost surely cancel call next week -- if it's
    difficult for you to be on one then, don't worry about it. Safe
    travels all.

    We are adjourned.

Summary of Action Items

    [End of minutes]
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