- From: Florian Rivoal <florian@rivoal.net>
- Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 12:39:55 +0900
- To: "Tab Atkins Jr." <jackalmage@gmail.com>
- Cc: fantasai <fantasai.lists@inkedblade.net>, "www-style@w3.org" <www-style@w3.org>
> On Feb 10, 2016, at 10:14, Tab Atkins Jr. <jackalmage@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 6:39 PM, fantasai <fantasai.lists@inkedblade.net> wrote: >> # For accessibility purposes, user agents may offer manual >> # controls allowing the user to switch between the 3 levels >> # of independently of the ambient light level, as high >> # contrast or low contrast styles may be more suitable for >> # users with visual disabilities. >> # >> # Using this media feature for accessibility purposes >> # overlaps a lot with the high-contrast media feature >> # proposed by Microsoft. Can we adjust this so that it >> # covers all use cases for both, or somehow modify them >> # to work in an orthogonal, rather than overlapping, fashion? >> >> So, I don't think we should mix up accessibility and light-level. >> Responses to light-level can involve contrast but also background/ >> foreground swaps: e.g. I might go with a light-on-dark scheme in >> dim lighting to avoid disrupting low-light vision, but not >> necessarily reduce the contrast. >> >> If we want to present contrast preferences, that should be >> explicit. We can show examples where someone who is drawing >> up a low-contrast scheme for dim lighting *also* applies that >> for people with a contrast preference, but they shouldn't be >> tied together. >> >> So I'd remove this issue and work on addressing the need for >> contrast or foreground/background preferences. > > We don't generally care about groups which need *less* a11y help, so > "reducing contrast" isn't really a use-case in the first place. ^_^ Actually it is. Not for people with low vision, but for people with certain forms of dyslexia, high contrast can make the text appear to be shining/sparkling/dancing, or just generally compound the difficulty of differentiating certain letter shapes (p vs q) and make things hard to read. > On the other hand, increasing contrast for "light-level: washed" is a > good idea, *and* it can help with a11y that wants high-contrast. (It > also generally means going with dark-on-light, which is better for > low-sighted users too.) Luckily, this works in the other direction as well. The type of corrections that people tend to apply in response to "light-level: dim" also correlate well with the type of adjustment people with dyslexia favor: * reducing contrast * reducing blue light and going for a sepia / warm colors * light-on-dark > So, like Florian, I favor mixing in a11y concerns to functional > concerns when they overlap in a reasonable manner, as they increase > the chance that they'll actually be addressed by authors. - Florian
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