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Re: [css-tables][css2.1] What should the measurement of the table be?

From: Gérard Talbot <www-style@gtalbot.org>
Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2015 03:39:53 -0400
To: Greg Whitworth <gwhit@microsoft.com>
Cc: www-style list <www-style@w3.org>
Message-ID: <5d723ff53580793deae2a704bb73e261@gtalbot.org>
Le 2015-03-08 03:23, Gérard Talbot a écrit :
> Le 2015-03-08 00:19, Greg Whitworth a écrit :
> 
> Greg, I have not examined your tests. But this statement got my 
> attention:
> 
>> Personally, I think that any time you use CSS tables it should have
>> the same end result as using actual tables
> 
> CSS table cells do not have a default 1px padding.

Initial padding value is 0; so doing this is compliant with the spec.

> <td> have a default 1px padding.

Another one is border-spacing. User agent style sheet of mainstream 
browser manufacturers use 'border-spacing: 2px' for <table> elements 
(like in appendix D) while a CSS table will not. Initial border-spacing 
value is 0.

Gérard

> Rules of user agent style sheets are accessible, viewable in Chrome,
> Firefox and Presto.
> 
> Also:
> 
> "
> The width of the table is the distance from the left inner padding
> edge to the right inner padding edge (including the border spacing but
> excluding padding and border).
> 
> However, in HTML and XHTML1, the width of the <table> element is the
> distance from the left border edge to the right border edge.
> "
> 17.6.1 The separated borders model
> http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/tables.html#separated-borders
> 
> The "However" clearly suggests that the previous sentence was
> referring to a CSS table.
> 
> And the "excluding padding and border" refers to table padding and 
> table border.
> 
> This part of spec is difficult to read, I would say.
> 
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Feb/0652.html
> 
> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=15530
> 
> Gérard
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