- From: Koji Ishii <kojiishi@gluesoft.co.jp>
- Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2014 06:09:26 +0000
- To: Alan Stearns <stearns@adobe.com>
- CC: Christoph Päper <christoph.paeper@crissov.de>, www-style list <www-style@w3.org>
On Oct 3, 2014, at 10:10, Alan Stearns <stearns@adobe.com> wrote: >>> [1] http://blogs.adobe.com/webplatform/2014/02/05/baseline-grids-for-the-web/ >> >> Not sure which picture in the blog post you think is common > > Either of the last two are valid ways to set headings in Latin. What you > need to avoid is line snapping everything [4]. Agreed, but that doesn’t explain which is fewer, or whether opt-in or opt-out is better strategy. I agree with Håkon that by default all to snap and author specify what not to is better. >> having blocks align to the grid looks natural to me, and matches to what >> East Asians do[2]. If that’s the case, wouldn’t it be more appropriate to >> say there are more elements to snap than not to? > > The more or less elements argument was applied to the use of line snapping > - both drafts use a separate property for box/block snapping. So adding > more box-snap elements isn’t that relevant to the question of whether we > should have one or two properties for establishing a grid and turning on > line snapping. You’re right, I was discussing whether to opt-in or opt-out, so changed the subject. >> I can’t really speak of Latin typography better than you, but please keep >> in mind that, at least in East Asia, authors would want almost every >> element to snap, except headings and pictures as blocks to snap (see Fig. >> 4.20 for when headings are of multiple lines[3].) >> >> [2] http://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#processing_of_gyoudori >> [3] http://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#fig3_1_17-en > > Right - Fig 4.20 shows a heading that box snaps and deliberately does > *not* line snap. That’s quite similar to the examples I give in my blog > post, though the box snap setting used will likely be different for > different scripts. As Christoph said, I’m not convinced that only few elements snap. I don’t want authors to make a list of “p, div, dl, dd, dt, ol, ul, li, …” in every styesheet. One possible idea is to make everything snap by default, with: * line-snap if the computed line-height is the same as the line-height of the element that created the grid, and * box-snap otherwise. Authors can further specify specific elements to behave differently, but I think that’d be a reasonable default for most of daily use cases. Does this suffice both of requirements? /koji
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