- From: A. Vine <andrea.vine@Sun.COM>
- Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 13:41:19 -0400 (EDT)
- To: Tex Texin <tex@i18nguy.com>
- Cc: Chris Lilley <chris@w3.org>, ishida@w3.org, www-style@w3.org, "'W3c I18n Group'" <w3c-i18n-ig@w3.org>
Sounds to me like this might be a candidate for a user preference, like search. Richard wants it one way, Tex wants it another way. Neither is wrong. Tex Texin wrote: > Not to my mind. We can change terms if that will be less confusing. > Perhaps the source text vs. the transformed text? Or generated text? > > For all of the situations I can think of where an application throws text to a > screen, the source is always irrelevant, and the clipboard receives the text > represented on the screen, and stored appropriately in a storage format. > > If CSS changes case, or generates content before or after some portions of the > source, I would expect the clipboard to receive the transformed and generated > content. Not the source text ripped from the markup. > > To the extent clipboards support multiple formats and encodings of the same > data, I have no objection (and in fact would like it) if the markup was stored, > in addition to the text as I described it. > > In the case of bidi, I would expect the logical version of the rendered text to > be stored on the clipboard. But I'll have to go do some testing to confirm what > usually happens on bidi systems. maybe someone else can confirm what happens > when you copy bidi text to the clpboard. > > tex > > Chris Lilley wrote: > >>On Friday, October 17, 2003, 2:07:52 AM, Tex wrote: >> >>TT> I wasn't proposing to change the source content. When text is highlighted and >>TT> copied from a screen, I think users expect to have the visualized text on the >>TT> screen, not the source. The visualized text is the content as far as they are >>TT> concerned. >> >>Does that mean, to continue the logical vs visual concept, that bidi >>text should also go on the clipboard in visual order? >> >>-- >> Chris mailto:chris@w3.org > > -- I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone. -Bjarne Stroustrup, designer of C++ programming language (1950- )
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