- From: Erik van der Poel <erik@netscape.com>
- Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 00:56:29 -0800
- To: www-style@w3.org
First, I'd like to thank David and Eric for posting documents about inline boxes. It was especially nice to see that David added some description of the multiple fonts that could potentially appear inside a single inline box. This is very important in my line of work (internationalization). Eric mentions the "em" in relation to the font-size, and I hope that CSS3 will also do so. The following is a brief description of the things that I am particularly concerned about, and which I hope will be addressed in CSS3: 1. font-size. This should be spelled out very clearly. It should be defined in terms of the "em square". I could live with "em box", but I think "em square" is the more common term. 2. half-leading. The spec should clearly state that the half-leading is added to the top and bottom of the font-size. (I would like to remove the term "when set solid" from the spec, since it's not appropriate in the digital font world. Similarly, leading and half-leading are not very appropriate. Since the terms padding and margin are already used for other purposes, how about calling it line spacing or font spacing? Or vertical spacing, to avoid confusion with letter-spacing.) 3. line-height: normal. The spec for "normal" is far too loose. We want to ensure that UAs implement this consistently, especially since it is the initial value. If the intent was to use the font's recommended leading for this, then that should be spelled out in the spec, so that all UAs do that. 4. line-height and multiple fonts. Each line box can contain multiple inline boxes, and each inline box can contain multiple fonts. (Perhaps we could call them ininline boxes? I.e. line -> inline -> ininline. I'm kidding. We need a better name for these. I'll call them font boxes for now.) We need to decide whether the half-leading is added to the top and bottom of the font-size of each inline box, or to each font box. Also, if we are going to add it to each font box, then we probably want a line-height of "normal" to make the half-leading depend on the font. I.e. a font-specific half-leading value is added to the top and bottom of the font box. Assuming that each font box is vertically aligned according to the vertical-align property of the inline element, the inline box top will correspond to the highest font box top, and the inline box bottom will correspond to the lowest font box bottom, in the same way that inline boxes affect line boxes. This also means that the height of an inline box is *not* the line-height value. It could be bigger than the line-height value, for the same reasons that a line box can be taller than line-height. 5. underline. Fonts usually have a recommended underline position and thickness. However, if we draw the underlines for the various font boxes at various positions and thicknesses, it won't look so good. I don't know whether CSS3 should mandate any specific behavior in this area. For example, we could specify that an additional underline box is added when the underline property is set. Or we could specify that the underline box is *always* there, and always affects the line box height, though it would be invisible if underline was not set. Also, we might want to specify that a contiguous underline potentially spanning multiple font boxes must be at a uniform position and thickness. Note that recommended underlines often occur inside the em square for Western fonts, but I'm not sure that this is true for East Asian fonts. So we may need to allow underline boxes and font boxes to overlap in some cases (e.g. Western), or protrude (e.g. East Asian). 6. padding and border. The spec should clearly state that the padding is added to the top and bottom of the font-size. Erik
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