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From: pat hayes <phayes@ai.uwf.edu>
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:05:24 -0500
Message-Id: <p05111b00b9f85b68457c@[]>
To: Paul Prescod <paul@prescod.net>
Cc: www-rdf-comments@w3.org

>Dave Beckett wrote:
>>What?  I've just noticed rdf:ID inside the XHTML bit.  That's not
>>going to be noticed by an RDF parser.  It only deals with
>><rdf:RDF> <rdf:RDF/> blocks.
>That should not be.
>>We haven't spent a lot of time considering mixing these things like
>>this.  Sounds more like a web architecture issue.  For the TAG.  Ha ha.
>When you embed XHTML in SVG, you don't wrap the whole fragment in an 
><html> element. I could list a variety of common embeddings and 
>you'll see that you seldom include the root element. (Schema in WSDL 
>is an exception, and does it as RDF does, but HTML in WSDL does not.
>The RDF specification should say specifically what an RDF processor 
>is looking for in a non-RDF document.

I don't think that requirement makes sense.  It would be dangerous to 
tell any RDF engine to draw any conclusions from embedded RDF, since 
the surrounding context might change the intended meaning.

>I would propose that an rdf:Description should be a proper root for 
>an RDF fragment. Similarly, a fragment rooted in rdf:About or rdf:ID 
>should be interpreted as an abbreviated rdf:Description.
>I don't think it needs to be handled by the TAG. Other "how do I 
>embed X" issues are figured out just by the people defining the 

But RDF (and the languages built on it) is more than just a markup 
convention: it is supposed to be expressing propositional content to 
be used by mechanical inference processes. I don't think that these 
conventions are going to be able to handle the issues that arise here.

Pat Hayes

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