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Re: Questions re web-fonts

From: Christopher Fynn <cfynn@gmx.net>
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 14:11:58 +0600
Message-ID: <4A5D8F4E.4060201@gmx.net>
To: www-font <www-font@w3.org>
CC: John Hudson <tiro@tiro.com>
John Hudson wrote:

> Christopher Fynn wrote:

>> Some questions for Karsten and others advocating "EOT only" support:

> That's not me, but I want to comment on your questions anyway.

>> If web-fonts (EOT, EOT-lite, or whatever) are intended not to work "on 
>> the desktop", will they work in desktop based web-design applications 
>> without invoking the browser?

>> With regard to fonts, do applications like Office Live, Google Docs 
>> and other so called "cloud computing" apps count as web applications 
>> or as desktop applications? Can I  use  embedded / linked fonts in 
>> documents created with such apps? Do I use web fonts or normal TTF/OTF 
>> fonts for this? If "web fonts", what happens when I want to edit these 
>> same documents in a local application? What fonts do I use when I'm 
>> using a word processor to design web pages with embedded fonts?

> It seems to me that what these questions point to most clearly is the 
> inadequacy of the OT font format specification in terms of addressing, 
> with clarity of intent, the use of fonts in electronic media. Apart from 
> whatever permission bits or tables may be added to that specification -- 
> perfectly legitimately and following ISO standards procedure --, there 
> isn't even clarity about what the existing embedding bits mean in terms 
> of web linking.

> New uses for fonts are emerging all the time, and this is one of the 
> reasons why I prefer to see a single, flexible format. The distinction 
> between 'desktop' and 'web' use seems to me artificial and unwieldy but 
> something that we're being forced towards because the distinction is not 
> being made where it should be made: at the licensing level supported by 
> permissions (even if those permissions are only informative, i.e. there 
> is no enforcement requirement on the part of browsers, apps or systems).

> If we're not allowed the right thing, don't be surprised if we end up 
> with the wrong thing.
> John Hudson

In OTF don't we more or less already have a single, extensible, flexible 
font format? We can add fine grained permission bits, additional 
licensing information and custom tables, etc., etc. to that format while 
remaining compatible with existing implementations.

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