- From: Murray Maloney <murray@yuri.org>
- Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 10:59:09 -0400
- To: Jason White <jasonw@ariel.ucs.unimelb.EDU.AU>
- Cc: WAI Working Group <w3c-wai-wg@w3.org>
Having read Jason's mail, and the private notes that I have received from Daniel D., I am incensed. I, as a member of the WAI WG took an action to represent the WAI at the HTML, XML and CSS meetings. I represented the group to the best of my ability -- check with TV Raman. Through my efforts, the HTML WG has agreed to accept a proposal. The process of the HTML WG requires that an INDIVIDUAL be responsible for actions, so I am the designated individual. I have immediately reported the results of my efforts. I have immediately indicated that a discussion should ensue under the WAI mailing list, but not the HTML WG mailing list. I have indicated that private mail will be acceptable -- because I have been around the block a few times and I know that sometimes people want to say things without telling the whole group what they think. I have nothing to apologize for and I don't intend to. I will continue to work for accessibility in the Web protocols, as I have since 1994 with some success. A brief history lesson would illustrate that I have been one of the foremost (and most vocal) proponent of the YRIF and WAI in the world. So please, if you want to be paranoid, please don't dump it on me. At 02:13 PM 27-08-97 +1000, Jason White wrote: >How is Murray's submission related to the WAI process and the various >relevant action items which the WAI working group has been considering for >the past few months? I thought there was intended to be a WAI results page >established that would act as a means of communicating proposals and >recommendations to the various W3C working groups, including the HTML WG. >I admit to being somewhat confused as to how Murray's action item is >integrated into ongoing WAI activities and the development of mechanisms >whereby the WAI can influence the development of W3C standards. >Incidentally, I would have expected the internal W3C procedures for >dealing with WAI recommendations to have been established right from the >outset of the project, as part of the W3C commitment to ensuring that its >standards enable web technologies and resources to be fully accessible. > >Turning briefly to the specific proposals which Murray has mentioned, it >is clear that most of them have been discussed in detail on this mailing >list. Daniel Dardailler, Al Gilman and I have strongly and consistently >argued for the inclusion of image maps within the definition of the OBJECT >element. The question of whether ALT should be a required attribute of the >IMG element still appears to be controversial, as is the related issue of >whether an empty ALT string would be acceptable, even desirable, in >certain circumstances. I am surprised that Murray is suggesting that >LONGDESC should be associated with OBJECT. Rather, I understood that it >was intended to be an attribute of IMG. If I recall the HTML 4.0 draft >correctly, it effectively prescribes that the innermost OBJECT in a nested >series of OBJECT elements contain a textual description or label of the >resource to which reference is being made. Thus, the long description can >be incorporated within OBJECT (given that it is a block level element) and >there appears to be no need for a separate LONGDESC element or attribute. >The contents of OBJECT are displayed whenever the user agent is unable to >present the resource in question, or, presumably, in circumstances where >the user has opted not to display images, etc. > > > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Murray Maloney Email: murray@yuri.org Technical Marketing Director Web: http://www.grif.com GRIF S.A. Phone: (905) 509-9120 Yuri Rubinsky Insight Foundation http://www.yuri.org Please Make a Tax-Deductible Donation http://www.yuri.org/donate.html
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