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Re: PDF's Exposed via Web Pages and Accessibility

From: Jonathan Avila <jon.avila@ssbbartgroup.com>
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 20:43:21 +0000
To: "howard_leicester@btconnect.com" <howard_leicester@btconnect.com>
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Howard, I won't jump into the PDF vs.  HTML discussion but I will say the issues regarding CMS content applies to other document and content formats as well and is a general issue this need to be addressed.

Jon

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On Jan 5, 2016, at 3:18 PM, Howard Leicester <howard_leicester@btconnect.com<mailto:howard_leicester@btconnect.com>> wrote:

Hi Jonathan et al,

Interesting exploration.

Wondering if any 508 solution actually serves the perpuse of being accessible for those who need it.

Im from the UK and think, possibly, over concern with formal standards may miss the true ability to make websites and e-documents as truly accessible as they might be.

Perhaps what Im saying is:


  *   What do you find useful?
  *   And
  *   Who is really benefitting?

No worries, but extra best,
Howard





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From: Jonathan Avila [mailto:jon.avila@ssbbartgroup.com]
Sent: 05 January 2016 17:47
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Subject: RE: PDF's Exposed via Web Pages and Accessibility


      I have been reviewing the proposed refresh of the United States of America Section 508 regulation, which specifically calls out using PDF/UA when embedding PDF files into web pages: http://www.access-board.gov/guidelines-and-standards/communications-and-it/about-the-ict-refresh

Based on my questions to the Access Board during the public hearing, the Board indicated authors can choose to use PDF/UA or WCAG for PDF document conformance.

Yes, you are correct that a mechanism should be in place to allow the promotion of compliant content and block non-compliant content.  Within PDF/UA some items still must be manually tested as the standard cannot be validated completely by an automated tool.

Products like our Accessibility Management Platform can scan websites and identify and test PDF documents for a number of automatic checks  one of which could be the PDF/UA designation.  API access is also available on various platforms to allow a CMS to upload a file for review to get a response.

Best Regards,

Jonathan

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From: Paul Tykodi [mailto:ptykodi@tykodi.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2016 11:58 AM
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Subject: PDF's Exposed via Web Pages and Accessibility

Hi,

I am currently working on a Customer Communications Management architecture project for a financial services firm. One of the issues I have been asked to investigate, from an architectural perspective, is the use of PDF files embedded within a publicly available web page.

I have been reviewing the proposed refresh of the United States of America Section 508 regulation, which specifically calls out using PDF/UA when embedding PDF files into web pages: http://www.access-board.gov/guidelines-and-standards/communications-and-it/about-the-ict-refresh

In looking at this issue from an architectural perspective, it seems like placing some form of validator in the delivery channels from PDF creator to web page delivery would likely be necessary to insure all PDFs made available for web page deployment were PDF/UA compliant.

I am hoping that subscribers to this W3C list with experience in this area might be able to comment on best practices for embedding PDF files in web pages and maintaining accessibility conformance (Examples: WCAG 2.0 and the ISO Standard known as PDF/UA) going forward.

Thanks.

Best Regards,

/Paul


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