- From: John Foliot <jfoliot@stanford.edu>
- Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 09:38:49 -0700
- To: <Anna.Yevsiyevich@kohls.com>
- Cc: <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Anna.Yevsiyevich@kohls.com wrote: > I read that part too, and that's why I wanted to ask my question > here. How many companies are at least thinking of going to 2.0? How > many are actively working on it now? Better question is: How many companies are even thinking about web accessibility? The fact that you are looking at either/both is great! I would venture to guess that for the most part, companies are looking at WCAG 1 or the Section 508 Standard. Anna, while shooting for a standard or guideline is great, there will also need to be a point where you will need to think beyond a "checkbox" position - many accessibility issues transcend black and white, right or wrong solutions. Slavish adherence to a guideline does not an accessible site make - the easiest example to cite is the requirement for ALT text on images: all too often we see sites that "pass" because the content creator used "<img src="path to file" alt="graphic" />" - technically a pass, but practically useless. > > That paragraph also states "Most Web sites that conform to WCAG 1.0 > should not require significant changes in order to conform to WCAG > 2.0, and some may not need any changes.". I just want to avoid > doing the work twice. So I'm not really sure which one to pursue. > Additionally, I'm looking for reasons that I could present to > management that would convince them to go with one or the other. Well, the reasons for going with WCAG 1 have been fairly consistently articulated. > > The other question I asked was how long it would take a document > that's in this stage (last call stage) to become a > recommendation/standard? If it will become a standard in the next > 6-9 months, then it's different from becoming a standard in the next > 2 years. There is no deadline - it will take as long as it takes. Welcome to the world of consensus building. I'm sure that there are members of the WCAG working group that wish it were done now, but then there are others within the "community" who feel that in it's current state the document leaves a lot to be desired. One area of significant concern is in addressing the needs of those with cognitive disabilities/impairments; many feel that this user group has been left out of the "mix". > > The reason for going with 2.0 now is that we won't have much to > update, even if the guidelines change and that we'll be current right > away and for a while. The reasons for going with 1.0 is that it's > stable, testable, established, etc. > > Thought knowing that IBM is going for 2.0 is really good to know. Is > IBM 1.0 compliant? They are? That's interesting because currently they have their own internal guideline [http://www-306.ibm.com/able/guidelines/web/accessweb.html], which again mirrors both WCAG 1 and Section 508 (with minor variances). Not wishing to be pedantic, no, IBM do not meet WCAG 1 Priority 2 compliance, as that page does not pass the W3C validator: WCAG 1 P2 -3.2. (And I do not consider being called a pendant an actual insult: "A pedant is a person who is a formalist or precisionist in teaching or scholarship." - wikipedia) I think the larger issue here is that "GOING FOR" and succeeding are often two separate things. Given the nature of the topic (along with the fact that doing "the right thing" for some user groups can hurt others) means that "success" is subjective. This is a key reason why the WCAG is a guideline and not a standard. And while WCAG 2 is an attempt to tighten up some of the more glaring ambiguities in WCAG 1, you will never have perfect. It appears that you are trying to put forth a "business case" for your superiors: this is good. *If* you succeed (and we all are cheering ya on - just so ya know), then the next step is to actually try and implement the goal. For this single reason, stick with WCAG 1 for now (and go for Priority 1 and 2 compliance), as it is the most stable mark to try and hit - it also is in line with other international institutions that have formalized any kind of compliance benchmark to date. Good Luck! JF --- John Foliot Academic Technology Specialist Stanford Online Accessibility Program http://soap.stanford.edu Stanford University 560 Escondido Mall Meyer Library 181 Stanford, CA 94305-3093
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