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Re: Jon Gunderson: HTML Specifications for Accessibility

From: Jon Gunderson <jongund@staff.uiuc.edu>
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 14:43:13 -0600
Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19971103144313.006f38d4@staff.uiuc.edu>
To: w3c-wai-hc@w3.org, Dave Raggett <dsr@w3.org>

Was the proposal made for disability access purposes?

Can proposals be resubmitted with arguements that address concerns of other
W3C members?


At 12:17 PM 11/3/97 -0500, you wrote:
>On Mon, 3 Nov 1997, Daniel Dardailler wrote:
>
>> 
>> I'm forwarding Jon's message to HC, and I have also told Jon to
>> followup on this forum rather than on IG.
>
>Jon writes:
>
>> Is there any attributes in the current proposal for adding text to
>> selectors when they are rendered in a browser.  For example in the
>> following style sheet excerpt is an example of how text could be
>> added to automatically to label selectors for people using screen
>> readers, or other forms of speech output or enlarged text using an
>> attribute named "preamble". 
>> 
>> ** style sheet **
>> H1 {  preamble: "Header Level 1"
>>         font-family: times-roman
>>         font-size: 12 }
>> 
>> ** HTML **
>> <H1>Introduction to CSS</H1>
>> 
>> ** Screen Display ***
>> 
>> Header Level 1 Introducation to CSS
>> 
>> The speech system would identify the text as a header since it would be
>> rendered on the screen, yet the user could select what they wanted (if at
>> all) the message to say.   This is similar to a concept proposed in the
>> Auditory Style Sheets.  
>
>At one point there was a proposal for inserting text before or after
>an element. Sadly this was rejected by the CSS and FP working group.
>
>I think there is a good case to be made for the more specific
>proposal for speak-before and speak-after, defined in a similar
>manner to cue-before and cue-after. For example:
>
>Property name:
>                     'speak-before' (or 'speak-after')
>             Value:
>                     "quoted text" | none
>             Initial:
>                     none
>         Applies to:
>                     all elements
>          Inherited:
>                     no
> Percentage values:
>                     N/A
>
>
>where the "quoted text" is a quoted text string to be spoken
>before (or after) the rendering of the given element.
>
>cue-before and cue-after are limited to auditory icons specified via
>a URL. speak-before and speak-after would provide a means to insert
>text directly from the style sheet. 
>
>Regards,
>
>-- Dave Raggett <dsr@w3.org> http://www.w3.org/People/Raggett
>phone: +44 122 578 2984 (or 2521) +44 385 320 444 (gsm mobile)
>World Wide Web Consortium (on assignment from HP Labs)
>
>
Jon Gunderson, Ph.D., ATP
Coordinator of Assistive Communication and Information Technology
Division of Rehabilitation - Education Services
University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign
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Champaign, IL 61820

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Received on Monday, 3 November 1997 16:17:00 UTC

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