- From: David MacDonald <david@can-adapt.com>
- Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 10:55:05 -0400
- To: "lisa.seeman" <lisa.seeman@zoho.com>
- Cc: "Hall, Charles (DET-MRM)" <charles.hall@mrm.com>, Jonathan Avila <jon.avila@levelaccess.com>, David Fazio <dfazio@helixopp.com>, WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAAdDpDYevPHj64U-DouV8fGsPCSWzvPwsTOUgkxL8mFejmsWvg@mail.gmail.com>
Hi Lisa The last suggested wording is 23 words: "Design and content choices can impact usage in ways that make it difficult or impossible for some people with cognitive and learning disabilities.” I think this is simpler than the original which is 25 words and this rewrite is putting the focus on the content rather than the author. At any rate, the current document is 200 pages long with plenty of sentences that are not as simple as this. I think this rewrite is fine. Cheers, David MacDonald *Can**Adapt* *Solutions Inc.* Mobile: 613.806.9005 LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidmacdonald100> twitter.com/davidmacd GitHub <https://github.com/DavidMacDonald> www.Can-Adapt.com <http://www.can-adapt.com/> * Adapting the web to all users* * Including those with disabilities* If you are not the intended recipient, please review our privacy policy <http://www.davidmacd.com/disclaimer.html> On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 10:05 PM lisa.seeman <lisa.seeman@zoho.com> wrote: > When possible we try and use easier language. This includes easy common > words, short sentences, active voice and remove extra words. > > Removing extra words that do not add to the meaning is also important. > > All the best > > Lisa Seeman > > LinkedIn <http://il.linkedin.com/in/lisaseeman/>, Twitter > <https://twitter.com/SeemanLisa> > > > > ---- On Tue, 05 May 2020 22:30:52 +0300 * charles.hall@mrm.com > <charles.hall@mrm.com> * wrote ---- > > If ‘usage’ is the functional outcome that is impacted, perhaps this is > even simpler? > > > > “Design and content choices can impact usage in ways that make it > difficult or impossible for some people with cognitive and learning > disabilities.” > > > > So if you stripped away the modifiers, it simply states “choices impact > people”. > > > > > > *Charles Hall* // Senior UX Architect > > Invited Expert, W3C Accessibility Guidelines Working Group & Silver Task > Force > > Chair, W3C Inclusive Design for the Immersive Web Community Group > > Learning Ambassador, MRM > > Member, Global Diversity Coalition, McCann Worldgroup > > > > (he//him) > > W +1.248.203.8723 > > M +1.248.225.8179 > > 360 W Maple Rd Third Avenue, Birmingham MI 48009 > > mrm.com <https://www.mrm.com/> > > > > [image: MRM] > > > > Cannes Network of the Year > > Effie's Most Creatively Effective Global Network 2018, 2019 > > IPG Agency Inclusion Vanguard – Agency of the Year 2019 > > Adweek 2019 Global Agency of the Year > > > > *From: *David MacDonald <david@can-adapt.com> > *Date: *Tuesday, May 5, 2020 at 2:54 PM > *To: *"Hall, Charles (DET-MRM)" <charles.hall@mrm.com> > *Cc: *Jonathan Avila <jon.avila@levelaccess.com>, David Fazio < > dfazio@helixopp.com>, WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>, "lisa.seeman" < > lisa.seeman@zoho.com>, WCAG Editors <team-wcag-editors@w3.org> > *Subject: *[EXTERNAL] Re: Sentence in COGA Note > > > > HI Charles > > > > Would this work for you > > > > > > "Design and content choices can impact perceivability, understandability > and/or usability in ways that make it difficult or impossible for some > people with cognitive and learning disabilities to use this content." > > > > Cheers, > David MacDonald > > > > *Can**Adapt* *Solutions Inc.* > > Mobile: 613.806.9005 > > LinkedIn > > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.linkedin.com_in_davidmacdonald100&d=DwMFaQ&c=Ftw_YSVcGmqQBvrGwAZugGylNRkk-uER0-5bY94tjsc&r=FbsK8fvOGBHiAasJukQr6o_PbCmVftVpHNrk4xUDIYM&m=Flkll7FKnnnRneceIz2fTxz6N4u9aEuPq1NSWTqvKOE&s=X6jltlpXDZCPaiIhZ-Ln0mnkrDebfGnrXn54nI_QszE&e=> > > twitter.com/davidmacd > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__twitter.com_davidmacd&d=DwMFaQ&c=Ftw_YSVcGmqQBvrGwAZugGylNRkk-uER0-5bY94tjsc&r=FbsK8fvOGBHiAasJukQr6o_PbCmVftVpHNrk4xUDIYM&m=Flkll7FKnnnRneceIz2fTxz6N4u9aEuPq1NSWTqvKOE&s=ccUf88mJZ_hzpRzjShhEt-1YzazLrNsJrxeC_7jVTjQ&e=> > > GitHub > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_DavidMacDonald&d=DwMFaQ&c=Ftw_YSVcGmqQBvrGwAZugGylNRkk-uER0-5bY94tjsc&r=FbsK8fvOGBHiAasJukQr6o_PbCmVftVpHNrk4xUDIYM&m=Flkll7FKnnnRneceIz2fTxz6N4u9aEuPq1NSWTqvKOE&s=fvdJdsGQPOvq-jf7rx_vaSbbM6AUOrcpjhnos6JxybU&e=> > > www.Can-Adapt.com > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.can-2Dadapt.com_&d=DwMFaQ&c=Ftw_YSVcGmqQBvrGwAZugGylNRkk-uER0-5bY94tjsc&r=FbsK8fvOGBHiAasJukQr6o_PbCmVftVpHNrk4xUDIYM&m=Flkll7FKnnnRneceIz2fTxz6N4u9aEuPq1NSWTqvKOE&s=1B0umGaeI7U_rorQO32e-lENVFaZeyKW6Fc9P6sPy4I&e=> > > > > * Adapting the web to all users* > > * Including those with disabilities* > > > > If you are not the intended recipient, please review our privacy policy > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.davidmacd.com_disclaimer.html&d=DwMFaQ&c=Ftw_YSVcGmqQBvrGwAZugGylNRkk-uER0-5bY94tjsc&r=FbsK8fvOGBHiAasJukQr6o_PbCmVftVpHNrk4xUDIYM&m=Flkll7FKnnnRneceIz2fTxz6N4u9aEuPq1NSWTqvKOE&s=9V0oG4s-oHpeRGPP799MTlRJbmQshBzXkOZfFXmodXc&e=> > > > > > > On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 2:38 PM Hall, Charles (DET-MRM) < > charles.hall@mrm.com> wrote: > > I too like shifting from creator to creation. However, this now implies > that the impact is to the content itself versus the impact being on the > user. It also uses the word content several times. > > > > > > *Charles Hall* // Senior UX Architect > > Invited Expert, W3C Accessibility Guidelines Working Group & Silver Task > Force > > Chair, W3C Inclusive Design for the Immersive Web Community Group > > Learning Ambassador, MRM > > Member, Global Diversity Coalition, McCann Worldgroup > > > > (he//him) > > W +1.248.203.8723 > > M +1.248.225.8179 > > 360 W Maple Rd Third Avenue, Birmingham MI 48009 > > mrm.com <https://www.mrm.com/> > > > > [image: MRM] > > > > Cannes Network of the Year > > Effie's Most Creatively Effective Global Network 2018, 2019 > > IPG Agency Inclusion Vanguard – Agency of the Year 2019 > > Adweek 2019 Global Agency of the Year > > > > *From: *Jonathan Avila <jon.avila@levelaccess.com> > *Date: *Tuesday, May 5, 2020 at 2:37 PM > *To: *David Fazio <dfazio@helixopp.com>, David MacDonald < > david@can-adapt.com> > *Cc: *WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>, "lisa.seeman" <lisa.seeman@zoho.com>, > WCAG Editors <team-wcag-editors@w3.org> > *Subject: *[EXTERNAL] RE: Sentence in COGA Note > *Resent-From: *<w3c-wai-gl@w3.org> > *Resent-Date: *Tuesday, May 5, 2020 at 2:37 PM > > > > That wording is fine with me too. > > > > Jonathan > > > > *From:* David Fazio <dfazio@helixopp.com> > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 5, 2020 2:24 PM > *To:* David MacDonald <david@can-adapt.com> > *Cc:* WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>; lisa.seeman <lisa.seeman@zoho.com>; WCAG > Editors <team-wcag-editors@w3.org> > *Subject:* Re: Sentence in COGA Note > > > > *CAUTION:* This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not > click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know > the content is safe. > > > > I do see how you’ve shifted the lens with the verbiage. The new wording is > less abrasive. I wouldn’t oppose the change. > > This message was Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse any typographic > errors. > > > > On May 5, 2020, at 11:15 AM, David MacDonald <david@can-adapt.com> wrote: > > Hi all > > > > on the call today there was quite a lively discussion around this sentence. > > > > CURRENT > > "People with cognitive and learning disabilities may not be able to > effectively use web content because of the design and content choices of > the author." > > I've gone back and tried to capture the essence of Lisa's rationale, while > steering the focus to the design/content and rather than the author. I also > used John Avila's word "impact" rather than "because". > > > > SUGGESTED > Design and content choices can impact the content in ways that make it > difficult or impossible for some users with cognitive and learning > disabilities to use this content. > > > > Cheers, > David MacDonald > > > > *Can**Adapt* *Solutions Inc.* > > Mobile: 613.806.9005 > > LinkedIn > > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.linkedin.com_in_davidmacdonald100&d=DwMGaQ&c=Ftw_YSVcGmqQBvrGwAZugGylNRkk-uER0-5bY94tjsc&r=FbsK8fvOGBHiAasJukQr6o_PbCmVftVpHNrk4xUDIYM&m=W-Y3PtnjmRiJmsqGzeOiNjKupbVb1jh_vkzz0g-DVrM&s=b_3H2GBGu0u168NpbPeZqP2ukgtNLUQdGAU4g18xOgc&e=> > > twitter.com/davidmacd > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__twitter.com_davidmacd&d=DwMGaQ&c=Ftw_YSVcGmqQBvrGwAZugGylNRkk-uER0-5bY94tjsc&r=FbsK8fvOGBHiAasJukQr6o_PbCmVftVpHNrk4xUDIYM&m=W-Y3PtnjmRiJmsqGzeOiNjKupbVb1jh_vkzz0g-DVrM&s=iEQiXnnhHjnpFMYjCPuZ1WQTwUtk8bBEnVAjBpWPX8g&e=> > > GitHub > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_DavidMacDonald&d=DwMGaQ&c=Ftw_YSVcGmqQBvrGwAZugGylNRkk-uER0-5bY94tjsc&r=FbsK8fvOGBHiAasJukQr6o_PbCmVftVpHNrk4xUDIYM&m=W-Y3PtnjmRiJmsqGzeOiNjKupbVb1jh_vkzz0g-DVrM&s=ekwltzAhUlT_xnZHYeK_XuaQ1C-C2obEQARZaPKEDfU&e=> > > www.Can-Adapt.com > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.can-2Dadapt.com_&d=DwMGaQ&c=Ftw_YSVcGmqQBvrGwAZugGylNRkk-uER0-5bY94tjsc&r=FbsK8fvOGBHiAasJukQr6o_PbCmVftVpHNrk4xUDIYM&m=W-Y3PtnjmRiJmsqGzeOiNjKupbVb1jh_vkzz0g-DVrM&s=rECAAQzJ_O-gmvCHPKHOiKE1akjMyh_PMzkabVwOdPo&e=> > > > > * Adapting the web to all users* > > * Including those with disabilities* > > > > If you are not the intended recipient, please review our privacy policy > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.davidmacd.com_disclaimer.html&d=DwMGaQ&c=Ftw_YSVcGmqQBvrGwAZugGylNRkk-uER0-5bY94tjsc&r=FbsK8fvOGBHiAasJukQr6o_PbCmVftVpHNrk4xUDIYM&m=W-Y3PtnjmRiJmsqGzeOiNjKupbVb1jh_vkzz0g-DVrM&s=p_jDytbKimo9I4wXIwJAdCFeUQYG9pVyDlDZcGE_1Kc&e=> > > This message contains information which may be confidential and > privileged. 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