- From: lisa.seeman <lisa.seeman@zoho.com>
- Date: Wed, 06 May 2020 05:04:53 +0300
- To: <charles.hall@mrm.com>
- Cc: <david@can-adapt.com>, <jon.avila@levelaccess.com>, <dfazio@helixopp.com>, <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>, <team-wcag-editors@w3.org>
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When possible we try and use easier language. This includes easy common words, short sentences, active voice and remove extra words.Removing extra words that do not add to the meaning is also important.All the bestLisa SeemanLinkedIn, Twitter ---- On Tue, 05 May 2020 22:30:52 +0300 charles.hall@mrm.com wrote ---- If ‘usage’ is the functional outcome that is impacted, perhaps this is even simpler? “Design and content choices can impact usage in ways that make it difficult or impossible for some people with cognitive and learning disabilities.” So if you stripped away the modifiers, it simply states “choices impact people”. Charles Hall // Senior UX Architect Invited Expert, W3C Accessibility Guidelines Working Group & Silver Task Force Chair, W3C Inclusive Design for the Immersive Web Community Group Learning Ambassador, MRM Member, Global Diversity Coalition, McCann Worldgroup (he//him) W +1.248.203.8723 M +1.248.225.8179 360 W Maple Rd Third Avenue, Birmingham MI 48009 mrm.com Cannes Network of the Year Effie's Most Creatively Effective Global Network 2018, 2019 IPG Agency Inclusion Vanguard – Agency of the Year 2019 Adweek 2019 Global Agency of the Year From: David MacDonald <david@can-adapt.com> Date: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 at 2:54 PM To: "Hall, Charles (DET-MRM)" <charles.hall@mrm.com> Cc: Jonathan Avila <jon.avila@levelaccess.com>, David Fazio <dfazio@helixopp.com>, WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>, "lisa.seeman" <lisa.seeman@zoho.com>, WCAG Editors <team-wcag-editors@w3.org> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Sentence in COGA Note HI Charles Would this work for you "Design and content choices can impact perceivability, understandability and/or usability in ways that make it difficult or impossible for some people with cognitive and learning disabilities to use this content." Cheers, David MacDonald CanAdapt Solutions Inc. Mobile: 613.806.9005 LinkedIn twitter.com/davidmacd GitHub www.Can-Adapt.com Adapting the web to all users Including those with disabilities If you are not the intended recipient, please review our privacy policy On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 2:38 PM Hall, Charles (DET-MRM) <charles.hall@mrm.com> wrote: I too like shifting from creator to creation. However, this now implies that the impact is to the content itself versus the impact being on the user. It also uses the word content several times. Charles Hall // Senior UX Architect Invited Expert, W3C Accessibility Guidelines Working Group & Silver Task Force Chair, W3C Inclusive Design for the Immersive Web Community Group Learning Ambassador, MRM Member, Global Diversity Coalition, McCann Worldgroup (he//him) W +1.248.203.8723 M +1.248.225.8179 360 W Maple Rd Third Avenue, Birmingham MI 48009 mrm.com Cannes Network of the Year Effie's Most Creatively Effective Global Network 2018, 2019 IPG Agency Inclusion Vanguard – Agency of the Year 2019 Adweek 2019 Global Agency of the Year From: Jonathan Avila <jon.avila@levelaccess.com> Date: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 at 2:37 PM To: David Fazio <dfazio@helixopp.com>, David MacDonald <david@can-adapt.com> Cc: WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>, "lisa.seeman" <lisa.seeman@zoho.com>, WCAG Editors <team-wcag-editors@w3.org> Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: Sentence in COGA Note Resent-From: <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org> Resent-Date: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 at 2:37 PM That wording is fine with me too. Jonathan From: David Fazio <dfazio@helixopp.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 2:24 PM To: David MacDonald <david@can-adapt.com> Cc: WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>; lisa.seeman <lisa.seeman@zoho.com>; WCAG Editors <team-wcag-editors@w3.org> Subject: Re: Sentence in COGA Note CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. I do see how you’ve shifted the lens with the verbiage. The new wording is less abrasive. I wouldn’t oppose the change. This message was Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse any typographic errors. On May 5, 2020, at 11:15 AM, David MacDonald <david@can-adapt.com> wrote: Hi all on the call today there was quite a lively discussion around this sentence. CURRENT "People with cognitive and learning disabilities may not be able to effectively use web content because of the design and content choices of the author." I've gone back and tried to capture the essence of Lisa's rationale, while steering the focus to the design/content and rather than the author. I also used John Avila's word "impact" rather than "because". SUGGESTED Design and content choices can impact the content in ways that make it difficult or impossible for some users with cognitive and learning disabilities to use this content. Cheers, David MacDonald CanAdapt Solutions Inc. Mobile: 613.806.9005 LinkedIn twitter.com/davidmacd GitHub www.Can-Adapt.com Adapting the web to all users Including those with disabilities If you are not the intended recipient, please review our privacy policy This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the intended recipient (or authorized to receive this message for the intended recipient), you may not use, copy, disseminate or disclose to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. 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