- From: Claus Thøgersen <thoeg@get2net.dk>
- Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 02:25:32 -0700
- To: "Kynn Bartlett" <kynn-edapta@idyllmtn.com>
- Cc: <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Hi,
This is half of the sollution. The other half is to state that the user can at any time during a presentation change preferences e.g. suddenly request sounds images videos or whatever else the server can offer. 2 if I am going to stand any chance of advising webdesigners I as a blind person has to be able to get presentations or actual content depending on many things the choice of language and so on, to advice authors on accessability issues.
I am worried about the idea that specialized user experiences will solve many problems because I have never seen a system that is capable of behaving in accordance with my very unstable and often unprodictable preferences in other ways than by obbying my commands.
Claus
----- Original Message -----
From: Kynn Bartlett <kynn-edapta@idyllmtn.com>
To: Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org>
Cc: <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 1:01 PM
Subject: Question from Last Week's WCAG Teleconference
> Ian, (interesting 3.1 proposal BTW) there was a discussion regarding
> "identifying the equivalency relationships" that related to a
> conversation you and I had at Bristol during a break. The minutes
> captured my comments this way:
>
> >KB This assumption comes with the idea that there is an optimal
> >presentation. From our work, there are different ways of presenting
> >information. I don't need to present to a visual user if they have said,
> >"don't play me sound" to let them know that there is sound here. I spoke
> >with Ian about this because it sounded odd. He specifically said it has to
> >be clear in the markup or the data model. It may be on my server - an
> >explicit representation between this image and this text. He said that as
> >long as in the data model, I would be covered. This does not have to be sent
> >to the user.
>
> I don't know if I am accurately portraying your viewpoint on this,
> but it's an accurate summary of what I understood at the time. I feel
> that we might have been getting bogged down a bit on this proposal and
> missed the "...or in the data model" part in the discussion.
>
> Can you share your views on this with the group, specifically regarding
> the question of whether or not the server must -reveal- the equivalency
> relationship in markup to the user and/or user agent, if the
> equivalency is clearly identified in the data model used by the server?
>
> (Sample scenario: I store everything in XML. My XML tells me that
> the markup "<span class='myheaders'>Kynn's Friends</span>" is equal
> to the image kyfrie004.jpg. If I send the markup to a user who has
> requested "no images", do I need to identify that it is alternative
> text in some way?)
>
> --
> Kynn Bartlett <kynn@idyllmtn.com> http://kynn.com/
> Director of Accessibility, Edapta http://www.edapta.com/
> Chief Technologist, Idyll Mountain Internet http://www.idyllmtn.com/
> AWARE Center Director http://www.awarecenter.org/
> What's on my bookshelf? http://kynn.com/books/
>
>
Received on Thursday, 26 October 2000 01:57:04 UTC