- From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 01:11:10 -0400 (EDT)
- To: Heather Swayne <hswayne@microsoft.com>
- cc: "'Ian Jacobs'" <ij@w3.org>, Jutta Treviranus <jutta.treviranus@utoronto.ca>, w3c-wai-au@w3.org
We justify because it is an absolute (priority 1) requirement for access that alternative content is available when multimedia objects cannot be rendered, whereas it is a lower priority requirement that spelling be corrected. I think we should make it clear (as I said in the teleconference - minutes to come as soon as my computer is working again, hopefully in the late morning) what the level of requirement is - prompt the author to provide alternative content means that at some point before publicatin or saving a document, where there are objects without alternatives, the author is prompted at least once to provide alternative content. For example, at save time, a warning may say "No alternative content has been specified for N objects. Add content or proceeed anyway?". Another example is that each time an object is added the author gets prompted for content. OR when a file is opened and is missing things the author is prompted - "no alternative content for objects X, Y and Z, please add it - click OK to continue"... Charles McCN On Mon, 24 Apr 2000, Heather Swayne wrote: If the WAI AU working group agrees to this definition of prompting, I would like to see the wording of guideline 3.1 "Prompt the author to provide equivalent alternative information" to be changed or lowered in priority (it is currently marked as a Relative priority, which refer to Web content guidelines 1.1-1.4, making this a priority one requirement). If Word never prompts the author to correcting misspelled word, how can we justify prompting the user to include alternative textual information for an image and still adhere to guideline 5? Heather Swayne Program Manager Microsoft -----Original Message----- From: Ian Jacobs [mailto:ij@w3.org] Sent: Monday, April 24, 2000 10:40 AM To: Charles McCathieNevile Cc: Jutta Treviranus; w3c-wai-au@w3.org Subject: Re: Definition of Prompt Charles McCathieNevile wrote: > > I would prefer us to use the more common definition of prompt, that it > requires author response, with the proviso that a prompt can have multiple > parts, for example the different pieces of stuff required for an image, or > can cover a multitude of things, for example "there are accesibility errors > in this document - save anyway?" I agree with Charles. I think that a prompt requires author response. - Ian > On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, Jutta Treviranus wrote: > > In discussing the issue of what is a prompt and what would constitute > compliance with guideline 3.1, it becomes apparent that we have a > contradiction in our documents. In both (Guideline and Technique) > Glossary of Terms and Definitions sections we have the following > definition: > > "A "prompt" is a request for author input, either information or a > decision. A prompt requires author response. For example, a text > equivalent entry field prominently displayed in an image insertion > dialog would constitute a prompt. Prompts can be used to encourage > authors to provide information needed to make content accessible > (such as alternative text equivalents). " > > Which seems contradictory in and of itself. > > This is complicated by the technique text following guideline 4 where > we speak of prompts in the following terms: > > "Prompts can be used to encourage authors to provide information > needed to make the content accessible (such as alternative text > equivalents). Prompts are simple requests for information. For > example, a text equivalent entry field prominently displayed in an > image insertion dialog would constitute a prompt. Prompts are > relatively unintrusive and address a problem before it arises. > However, once the author has ignored the prompt, its > message is unavailable." > > We seem to be suggesting that on the one hand prompts require an > author response and on the other hand that they are relatively > unintrusive and are instruments of encouragement. > > I think the spirit of what we want is that prompts should provide > noticeable encouragement without demanding immediate author response. > Therefore I suggest we delete the sentence "A prompt requires author > response" from both Definition sections. I also suggest that we > delete the sentence "However, once the author has ignored the prompt, > its > message is unavailable" from the technique section, given that that > is not always the case with our broader definition of prompt. In the > technique document we also need to make it clear that we are not > adhering to the restrictive definition of prompt used in several > software development toolkits but a broader definition of prompting. > > Jutta > > > -- > Charles McCathieNevile mailto:charles@w3.org phone: +61 (0) 409 134 136 > W3C Web Accessibility Initiative http://www.w3.org/WAI > Location: I-cubed, 110 Victoria Street, Carlton VIC 3053 > Postal: GPO Box 2476V, Melbourne 3001, Australia -- Ian Jacobs (jacobs@w3.org) http://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs Tel: +1 831 457-2842 Cell: +1 917 450-8783 -- Charles McCathieNevile mailto:charles@w3.org phone: +61 (0) 409 134 136 W3C Web Accessibility Initiative http://www.w3.org/WAI Location: I-cubed, 110 Victoria Street, Carlton VIC 3053 Postal: GPO Box 2476V, Melbourne 3001, Australia
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