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Re: use/mention and reification

From: Frank Manola <fmanola@mitre.org>
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 13:16:24 -0500
Message-ID: <3C4EFDF8.30802@mitre.org>
To: Dan Connolly <connolly@w3.org>
CC: Graham Klyne <Graham.Klyne@mimesweeper.com>, Dan Brickley <danbri@w3.org>, RDF core WG <w3c-rdfcore-wg@w3.org>
Dan Connolly wrote:

> Ugh... discussion diverges
> into metaphysics and philosophy.

Well, some of this is helpful in understanding what the issues are, but 
I'd agree that it doesn't *necessarily* get us to an actual resolution.

> Here are the options I find acceptable:
> (a) Shoot reification on the grounds that
> there isn't consensus about what it means
> nor how to use it.
> (b) accept my proposal to clarify/change
> how it works, based on my implementation
> experience, DanBri's, and Jos's.

Could you summarize once again what that proposal (b) is?  I.e., say it 
in a few sentences or paragraphs so we could say (say at a telecon) "yes 
I agree with that statement of how reification ought to work" (or 
disagree, assuming one feels that way)?  I don't think this request 
constitutes a request for "advocacy" (on the other hand, nailing this 
sucker would be worth a bit wouldn't it?)


> In order for this to fly, I owe a pile
> of test cases. (or Jos or Danbri or
> somebody(ies) who agree with this position).
> It seems that I'd have to do a bunch of
> advocacy too. Bad news is: I really don't
> care about it enough to prioritize
> it high enough to do a bunch of advocacy.
> Either my position is basically understood
> and agreed by the WG and the community,
> or I'm happy to (a) shoot it. That is:
> if there aren't a bunch of people out
> in the community who understand rdf:subject
> the way I do, then the well-known-name
> does me little good; I can just make
> up my own namespace.

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