- From: Brian McBride <bwm@hplb.hpl.hp.com>
- Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 16:55:29 +0100
- To: rdf core <w3c-rdfcore-wg@w3.org>, Jeremy Carroll <jeremy_carroll@hpl.hp.com>
Time: 10:00:00 Fri Aug 17 2001 in America/New_York which according to: http://www.timezoneconverter.com/cgi-bin/tzc.tzc converts to: 15:00:00 Fri Aug 17 2001 in Europe/London 23:00:00 Fri Jul 27 2001 in Asia/Seoul Phone Number: +1 630 536 3003 room #3003 irc: irc.openprojects.net #rdfcore WELCOME, ROLL CALL, SCRIBE REVIEW AGENDA REVIEW MINUTES OF MEETING on 27th July 2001 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2001Aug/0065.html REVIEW MINUTES OF FACE TO FACE MEETING 1-2 AUG 2001 http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/RDFCore/20010801-f2f/ CONFIRM FOLLOWING ACTIONS COMPLETED (2 min) ACTION 2001-07-20#6 - DanBri - send a note to the list that describes the RDF Schema issues that he wants to discuss at the f2f meeting http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2001Jul/0438.html ACTION 2001-08-01#1 Mike Dean Provide public URL to his presentation http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2001Aug/0037.html ACTION 2001-08-02#4 Pat Hayes Re-write model theory as an interpretation of a graph rather than n-triple http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2001Aug/att-0051/01-RDF_Model_Theory_postF2F.html ACTION 2001-08-02#5 Sergey Melnick Send copy of document projected at meeting to the mailing list http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/RDFCore/20010801-f2f/sergey.txt ACTION 2001-08-02#6 Brian McBride Approach Jeremy Carrol to help with RDF/XML language definition. ACTION 2001-08-02#8 Dan Brickley Ensure that the document projected, as amended during the meeting goes on line. http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/RDFCore/20010801-f2f/ericsdoc.txt 2001-08-02#11 Graham Klyne Post message to list describing how CC/PP uses datatypes http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2001Aug/0028.html ACTION 2001-08-02#18 Jan Grant Propose an explanation of why a subproperty of a transitive property need not be transititive. http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2001Aug/0031.html ACTION 2001-08-02#20 Ron Daniel Post his list of agreed principles to the list. http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2001Aug/0001.html ACTION 2001-08-02#21 Brian McBride Propose structure of documents to be produced ACTION 2001-08-02#24 Brian McBride Open rdfs-no-cycles-in-subClassOf with Frank Manola as owner ACTION 2001-07-27#3 - Brian - Update f2f page to point to Pat's model theory CONFIRM FOLLOWING ACTIONS CLOSED ACTION: 2001-06-22#5: DanBri: Get a draft of RDFSchema to the group. ACTION 2001-07-20#1 - all WG members - send regrets to Eric Miller ASAP if you not be able to attend the meeting. ACTION 2001-07-20#5 - Sergey - summarize the model theory references ACTION 2001-07-27#4 - Pat - create table of pros/cons for model theory for f2f REVIEW STATUS OF FOLLOWING ACTIONS (5 min) ACTION: 2001-07-06#2 (danbri) - write test cases for the RDF schema issues that are impacted by literals-as-resources. ACTION 2000-07-20#10 - Bill - create xml:lang use cases ACTION 2001-07-27#1 - EricM - For 2001-07-20 minutes re character-encoding issue, to write up his correction and send to list ACTION 2001-07-27#2 - Bill - For 2001-07-20 minutes, Bill to send mail clarifying his action to review M+S w.r.t. what it says about literals. ACTION 2001-08-01#2 Brickley - Get Model Theory Introduction Slides online ACTION 2001-08-01#3 Pat Hayes Include example in model theory slides ACTION 2001-08-02#7 Dave Beckett With help from Art and Jan, investigate how to represent RDF/XML grammar and the specification of the transformation of RDF/XML to a graph representation. ACTION 2001-08-02#10 Jan Grant Write up a fix/workaround for folks using the currently defined semantics for domain and range constraints. ACTION 2001-08-02#12 Jan Grant Post message to list about how EASEL uses datatypes ACTION 2001-08-02#13 Pat Hayes Post message explaining why having the typing at the top of the hierarchy in RDFS is not a set theoretical hole. ACTION 2001-08-02#14 Ora Lassila Talk to Ian and Frank and get background on why they require cycles in rdfs:subClassOf relationship. ACTION 2001-08-02#15 Pat Hayes Discuss cycles in rdfs:subClassOf and rdfs:subPropertyOf with DAML folks and report back to us. ACTION 2001-08-02#15 Sergey Melnik Discuss reification alterantives with Pat Hayes. ACTION 2001-08-02#22 Hyung-Jin Kwon Make his presentation available on the web and circulate URL to the list. ACTION 2001-08-02#33 Dan Brickley Form task force with Graham Klyne, Martyn Horner and Jan Grant to investigate the DAML+OIL approach to XML datatypes. ACTION 2001-08-02#23 Brian McBride Update schedule to aim for WWW2002 announcement. ACTION 2001-08-02#9 Dan Brickley Update RDF Schema spec to reflect decision to adopt conjunctive semantics for domain and range. ACTION 2001-08-02#25 Dan Brickley Update RDF Schema WD to flag possibility of removing no cycles restriction on subClassOf and subPropertyOf and seek feedback if this will cause problems. ACTION 2001-08-02#26 Dan Brickley Update schema WD and close rdfs-domain-and-range ACTION 2001-08-02#27 Dan Brickley Update schema WD and close rdfs-domain-unconstrained ACTION 2001-08-02#28 Dan Brickley Close rdfs-primitive-properties ACTION 2001-08-02#29 Dan Brickley Close rdfs-subPropertyOf-semantics ACTION 2001-08-02#30 Dan Brickley Clarify rdfs-subClassOf-a-Property as "Are Class and Property disjoint" ACTION 2001-08-02#31 Dan Brickley Fix rdfs-online-char-encoding in the next schema WD and close this issue ACTION 2001-08-02#32 Dan Brickley Close rdfs-versioning ACTION 2001-08-02#32 Dan Brickley Update rdfs-transitive-subSubProperty with explanatory text privided by Jan, include in the next schema WD, but do not close this issue yet. ACTION 2001-08-02#17 Dan Brickley Update RDFS prose to reflect decision that subproperties should inherit conjunctively the range+domain of their superproperties. ACTION 2001-08-02#19 Dan Brickley Submit a new working draft of RDF Schema by 6th September 2001. Discuss the strawman document structure: (15 mins) http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2001Aug/0038.html Goal - identify issues and concerns. So far we have: o we need to get started and see the material before getting into lengthy theoretical discussions o how much 'explanatory' material should the spec have o which are we revising/clarifying and which are new work products o timescales/resources o don't make folks read two documents o do we need an executive overview o where do n-triples fit in the spec o moving containers/reification may cause problems with review process (what problems?) Propose we take a shot at a first draft of a core model spec based on the current M&S document merged with the appropriate sections of the model theory. Model Theory (10 mins) http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2001Aug/att-0051/01-RDF_Model_Theory_postF2F.html Goal - discuss initial responses - identify how to move forward Issue #rdfms-glossary Martyn (10 mins) Goal - decide what we are doing about the glossary and assign actions. Issue #rdfs-transitive-subProperty (10 mins) http://www.w3.org/2000/03/rdf-tracking/#rdfs-transitive-subSubProperty Review Jan's message http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2001Aug/0031.html Propose that the ancestor/parent example clarifies why sub-properties of transitive properties need not be transitive. Propose that someone be actioned to close this issue using that example as an explanation. Issue #rdfms-literal-is-xml-structure (10 mins) http://www.w3.org/2000/03/rdf-tracking/#rdfms-literal-is-xml-structure goal - identify an owner for this issue Next telecon - 10am Boston time, 24th August 2001. AOB (5 mins) CLOSE
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