- From: Paskin, Norman (DOI-ELS) <n.paskin@doi.org>
- Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 15:03:21 +0100
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- Cc: "'braden@ISI.EDU'" <braden@ISI.EDU>, "'iesg@ietf.org'" <iesg@ietf.org>, "'rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org'" <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org>, "'iesg-secretary@ietf.org'" <iesg-secretary@ietf.org>, "'doi-twg@doi.org'" <doi-twg@doi.org>, "'rawg@doi.org'" <rawg@doi.org>
The authors of a rejected URI draft on DOIs were asked to comment to this list on non-IETF URI trees. I was the the lead author on that draft. DOIs (Digital Object Identifiers) are in widespread and growing use by publishers and other high value content providers (http://www.doi.org). A draft "The "doi" URI Scheme for the Digital Object Identifier (DOI)" by Paskin, Neylon, Hammond, and Sun was submitted as an informative RFC to set out its relation to existing IETF architecture. The latest version of was rejected by the IESG in the following note: "This document proposes a top-level URI scheme, doi, and contains details about the usage of this identifier in a community of use centered on the International DOI Foundation. After receiving this draft from the RFC Editor, the IESG requested that the URI be reviewed by the team at uri-review@ietf.org to see if it fit within the guidelines established by RFC 2717/BCP35. Though the authors and reviewers have had a productive discussion of the draft, the IESG has concluded that this draft does not meet the requirements of RFC 2717, section 3.2. The IESG notes, however, that the original intention of those crafting RFC 2717 was to set up registration trees outside the IETF tree, in order to enable registrations by those whose community of use lay largely outside the context of IETF standards. After a long pause in the development of those registration procedures, the responsible AD has asked Larry Masinter to take on editorship of a proposed set of procedures for these registrations. The IESG encourages the draft's authors to work with him on those guidelines and, when they are complete, to register the doi scheme in the non-IETF tree that they will set up." We were puzzled by the statement that our submission is deemed to be in a "community of use ...outside the context of IETF standards" since any use of a DOI is through an internet transaction and is open to any internet user. The RFC Editor advised us to request that the IESG clarify with examples the meaning of this phrase. Additionally we were recommended to follow up the non-IETF tree recommendation with Larry Masinter, and were pointed to http://larry.masinter.net/vndurl.txt which proposes two non-IETF URI trees vnd- and prs-, to be used for the following: "In the development of new products, vendors often have the need to use URIs to identify and locate resources in a manner that is NOT seen by end users, is not widely distributed, or for some other reason does not justify the effort to register a scheme name from the IETF tree." That proposal that a non-IETF identifier should be so restricted is not appropriate to DOIs, which are seen by end users and which are widely distributed in a large open community. The users of DOIs wish to see DOIs described in an RFC that will be useful to those internet users encountering them, in addition to the existing DOI documentation. Neither the suggestion that DOIs are outside the context of IETF standards nor the proposed non-IETF tree approach as currently formulated seem to deal adequately with the requirements of the DOI community. The need for the DOI has come out of the content industries, building on earlier cross-industry collaborative efforts from a wide range of organisations which have their own business requirements for digital identifiers. Among those requirements are (1) the need for publicly identified entities to have specified attributes which are able to interoperate semantically with existing metadata schemes, and (2) the ability to manage ownership as just another attribute at the individual ID level. A previous discussion of the draft on this list (<https://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/working-groups/uri-review/current/thrd2 .html>) covered a lot of ground, but the main argument in that discussion was that there was no engineering detail in the draft, such as specifications sufficient to build a client that could do anything useful with a doi, etc. This was deliberate, though there is, in fact, quite a lot of engineering under the surface: e.g. while the bulk of DOI resolutions are currently done through proxy servers sitting in front of the underlying resolution and storage system, (the 10 millionth assigned DOI, for example, can be resolved as http://dx.doi.org/10.1007/s00348-003-0647-4) there are related services that can be associated with each DOI in ways that could be discovered and used directly and efficiently by client software. We will expand on and specify this in a future further draft, and solicit comments on this list, within the next few weeks. Norman Paskin International DOI Foundation
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