Agenda: WS-Policy WG distributed meeting 47 - 2007-07-11

Agenda: WS-Policy WG distributed meeting 47 - 2007-07-11

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1. Roll call and selection of secretary, Chair

a) Scribe List:

Mark Little (July 11)
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Dimitar Angelov
Sanjiva Weerawarana
Ruchith Fernando
Tom Jordahl
Vladislav Bezrukov
Symon Chang
Doug Davis
Jacques Durand
Steve Jones
Mohammad Makarechian
Jonathan Marsh
Arnaud Meyniel
Sanjay Patil
Skip Snow
Jeff Mischkinsky
Sanka Samaranayake
Mark Little
Glen Daniels
Anthony Nadalin
Daniel Roth
Fabian Ritzmann
Sergey Beryozkin
Charlton Barreto
David Orchard
Abbie Barbir
Dale Moberg
Frederick Hirsch
Mark Temple-Raston
Dale Moberg
Paul Knight
Yakov Sverdlov
Prasad Yendluri
Maryann Hondo
Ashok Malhotra
Monica Martin
Felix Sasaki
Asir Vedamuthu
Toufic Boubez
William Henry
Charlton

b) Scribe FAQ (Updated)
Member only:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-policy/2006Oct/0001.html

2. Review and approval of WG minutes, Chair

a) Review and approval of draft June 27 telcon minutes
http://www.w3.org/2007/06/27-ws-policy-minutes.html

3. Schedule and future WG meetings, Chair

a) Future meetings
http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/policy/admin#meetings

b) Tue-Thu Jul 17-19 F2F meeting in Dublin hosted by Iona
http://www.w3.org/2007/07/ws-policy-f2f-logistics.html

3. Congratulations! WS-Policy 1.5 is a PR
        http://www.w3.org/News/2007#item145
        http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/PR-ws-policy-20070706
        http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/PR-ws-policy-attach-20070706/

4. Editorial team report
Current Editors drafts:
http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/policy/#drafts

5. Review action items, Chair
Open action items:
Member only:
http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/wspolicy/actions/open

ACTION-300 Paul Cotton to make sure that the additional suggestions are 
not lost for the non-normative docs related to issue 4554

ACTION-304 Chris Ferris to look at sections 5.5.1 and 5.5.2 and suggest 
additional text

ACTION-306 Chris Ferris to review BP 23 and associated text, Section 5.7.

ACTION-322 Maryann to initiate email thread elaborating on best practice 
related to issue http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4654

ACTION-323 Maryann to update issue 4660 using stable version as baseline 
in 2 weeks

ACTION-325 Maryann to revise proposal for 4663 based on feedback from 
Monica and discussion on today's call

ACTION-326 Toufic to initiate email thread on issue 4672... WG members to 
weigh in via email before next week's call

ACTION-327 Chris to change 4762 to PR issue once transition to PR has 
occurred
DONE

ACTION-328 Monica to open PR issue regarding the security policy reference
DONE: See 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jun/0102.html

6. PR issues

a) [New Issue] Issue 4762: Media type section update, Felix
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jun/0096.html
Status: The Chairs and Felix propose to deal with this as a PR issue.

ACTION-327 Chris to change 4762 to PR issue once transition to PR has 
occurred
DONE

b) ACTION-328 Monica to open PR issue regarding the security policy 
reference
DONE: See 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jun/0102.html

7. Primer Document
Latest editor's draft:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007May/0079.html

a) Bugzilla list:
http://tinyurl.com/2a5uwj

b) Issue 4376: [Primer] need to change qname for the ws-addr metadata 
elements in examples
Status: Left open to catch any later changes WS-Addressing Metadata.  We 
expect to process this issue at the Dublin F2F.  This specification is 
transitioning to CR:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/chairs/2007AprJun/0110.html

c) Other Primer issues

8. Guidelines issues

a) Bugzilla list:
http://tinyurl.com/ywtogs

b) [Bug 4566]: Guideline G2 to be reconsidered, Toufic
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4566
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007May/0214.html

ACTION-312 Toufic to propose a different wording for Good Practice G2 [Bug 
4566]
DONE: 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jun/0054.html

ACTION-321 Toufic to initiate email thread on issue 4566... wg members to 
weigh in via email before next week's call
DONE.  See:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jun/0091.html

c) [Bug 3978]: Clarify if Section 7 on defining new policy attachment 
mechanisms is necessary, Dan Roth
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3978
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0102.html

ACTION-259 Maryann Hondo to provide a revised proposal for Issue 3978.
DONE. See:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Mar/0112.html

ACTION-273 Maryann to send a diff version of the proposed changes to the 
Guidelines document re issue 3978
DONE.  See:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Apr/0016.html

ACTION-313 Maryann to review latest Primer and Guidelines with regards to 
her four points related to [Bug 3978]
DONE.  See:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jun/0033.html
Note: The above email covers AIs 286, 303, 305, and 313:
Reply from David O:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jun/0036.html
Status: At the Jun 13 meeting the following action items were assigned 
relating to the 2007Jun/0033.html proposal:

ACTION-316 Asir [and other WG members] to respond with comments to Maryann 
on proposal in June msg 33
DONE: 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jun/0052.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jun/0063.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jun/0069.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jun/0070.html

ACTION-317 Maryann to open new guidelines issues (for) based on on content 
in June Msg 33
DONE.  See:

Issue 4654:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jun/0055.html
Issue 4660:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jun/0057.html
Issue 4662:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jun/0058.html
Issue 4663:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jun/0059.html
Issue 4664:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jun/0060.html
Issue 4661:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jun/0061.html

ACTION-318 Editors to work with Maryann to figure which of the issues 
resulting June msg 33 are doable before July F2F

d) [Bug 3988]: Section 8 doesn't illustrate how to design an assertion., 
Asir
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3988
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Nov/0112.html
Email discussion thread:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2006Dec/0000.html
Status: Awaiting progress on new EDs with best practices reflected. We 
expect to process this issue at the Dublin F2F.

e) Issue 4375: [Guidelines] need to change qname for the ws-addr metadata 
elements in examples
Status: This issue is effectively resolved, but left open until WS-A 
Metatada goes CR.  We expect to process this issue at the Dublin F2F.

f) Issue 4660 [Guidelines] Best Practice Statments should be statements
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4660

ACTION-323 Maryann to update issue 4660 using stable version as baseline 
in 2 weeks

g) Issue 4661 [Guidelines] Reorganize guidance on XML Info Set represen...
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4661

h) Issue 4662 [Guidelines] Proposal for AI 305
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4662

ACTION-324 Asir to follow-up on 4662 to relate msft comments
DONE. See:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jun/0078.html
Moncia's reply:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jun/0089.html

Monica's comments:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jun/0088.html

i) Issue 4663 [Guidelines] Example for Section 8
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4663
Microsoft comments:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jun/0094.html
Monica's comments:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jun/0090.html

j) Issue 4664 [Guidelines] Proposal for AI 286
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4664
Microsoft comments:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jun/0093.html
Monica's comments:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jun/0087.html

k) Issue 4654 [Guidelines] Guidelines for Policy Attachment
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4654
Comment from Monica:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jun/0098.html

ACTION-322 Maryann to initiate email thread elaborating on best practice 
related to issue http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4654

l) Issue 4672 [Guidelines] typo's in examples
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4672

ACTION-326: Toufic to initiate email thread on issue 4672... WG members to 
weigh in via email before next week's call

m) [Issue 4695] Editorial Comments on Guidelines, Monica
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jun/0095.html

n) Other Guidelines issues

11. Adjourn

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Christopher Ferris
STSM, Software Group Standards Strategy
email: chrisfer@us.ibm.com
blog: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/blogs/page/chrisferris
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