- From: Hugo Haas <hugo@w3.org>
- Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 16:48:46 -0800
- To: public-ws-addressing@w3.org
- Message-ID: <20041109004846.GA6193@w3.org>
This is to start discussion of issues 019: The Member submission uses many WSDL 1.1-specific terms and concepts; we need to make the language equally applicable to WDSL 2.0. E.g., mapping operation names to URIs. http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/addr/wd-issues/#i019 I believe that it is mainly editorial except for the implicit value of the action property. Our charter calls for components "usable independently of the SOAP or WSDL version in use". This is actually somewhat broader than just adding support for WSDL 2.0: we should use concepts which are abstract enough to meet this goal. The Member submission has the following issues: - Endpoint references extend the WSDL description model, using WSDL 1.1 concepts (e.g. portTypes); they define the following components: - [selected port type]: The QName of the primary portType of the endpoint being conveyed. This is very much WSDL 1.1-specific. This basically corresponds to the concept of Interface in WSDL 2.0[1]. We need to abstract this. Reusing the WSDL 2.0 definition, we could use: A QName identifying a description of the sequences of messages that a service sends and/or receives. Also for alignment with WSDL 2.0, I propose that we call this [selected interface], and in our WSDL mapping specification, map WSDL 1.1 portTypes and WSDL 2.0 interfaces QName identifiers to this property. - [service-port]: This is the QName identifying the WSDL service element that contains the definition of the endpoint being conveyed. The service name provides a link to a full description of the service endpoint. An optional non-qualified name identifies the specific port in the service that corresponds to the endpoint. WSDL 2.0's Service[2] and Enpoint[3] components have similar identifiers. Basically, I think that we should abstract this a little that saying that this is a (QName + NCName?), the QName identifying a description of a set of endpoints at which a particular deployed implementation of the Web service is provided (which is the definition of a WSDL 2.0 Service component), and the NCName identifying an endpoint in particular. Considering the description of service port which matches with WSDL 2.0 components names, I would like to suggest to name this property [service endpoint]. I would also note that the service provides IMO a _reference_ to a full description of _a set of_ service endpoints: link rhymes with URI for me, which isn't the case here, and the service is about a set of endpoints. - the XML serialization of EPR should refer directly to the abstract components instead of referring again to WSDL (1.1) constructs, and I believe that a similar renaming should be done. - the action MIH has some WSDL 1.1 language associated to it. I would propose: It is RECOMMENDED that value of the [action] property is a URI identifying an input, output, or fault message within a WSDL description. - the main issue with the action MIH comes from: An action may be explicitly or implicitly associated with the corresponding WSDL definition. Section 3.3 below describes the mechanisms of association. However, section 3.3 describes a WSDL 1.1-specific mechanism. If the service has a WSDL 2.0 description, another mechanism needs to be used, which is actually defined by the WSDL 2.0 specification[4]. I would therefore propose that section 3.3 be introduced as a mapping of a WSDL 1.1 description to an action URI, that we note that for WSDL 2.0, the message reference component URI should be used. This leaves us with an interesting issue: if there is a WSDL 1.1 and WSDL 2.0 description available, which is the implicit value of the action property? If in a year's time we release WSDL 2.1, what happens? I believe that there is an implicit value of the action URI recognized by the recipient of the addressing information for the description of the service made in each version of WSDL. Those are equivalent for the purpose of our specification. - in several places in section 1 and 2, the specification makes some statements about WSDL 1.1 which should basically be changed into statement about WSDL in general. Regards, Hugo 1. http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/WD-wsdl20-20040803/#Interface 2. http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/WD-wsdl20-20040803/#Service 3. http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/WD-wsdl20-20040803/#Endpoint 4. http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/wsdl20/wsdl20.html?content-type=text/html;%20charset=utf-8#frag-ids -- Hugo Haas - W3C mailto:hugo@w3.org - http://www.w3.org/People/Hugo/
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