- From: Rich Salz <rsalz@datapower.com>
- Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 18:24:56 -0500 (EST)
- To: public-ws-addressing@w3.org
After some off-line discussion with Glen (sparked by my "+1" response to Dims's proposal), I'm still concerned about the way the SOAP binding promotes refp's to first-class SOAP headers. Suppose a sender has a set of refp's and wants to make sure that they come back, unmodified. The natural way to do this would be to sign them, with a single signature covering all the elements. (There could be multiple signatures, but it's really not important here.) Where should that signature go? Suppose the client is using WS-Security. The sender can't create a WS-Security header, since WSS does not allow multiple WSS elements targeted to the same node. Suppose the sender generates a signature element. The current SOAP binding says that this header must be promoted to top-level Header element. This conflicts with WSS which says that all security elements should be contained within WSS. Whenever an EPR has a signature, it seems impossible for the client to be conformant with both WSS and WSA. Gudge, you're also involved in both groups -- can you prove me wrong? The work-around -- the sender creates its own WSS header, with a unique SOAP actor attribute that just happens to be an internal "alias" for the server itself, is a real hack. (I think this is a general problem whenever an EPR includes a refp that is *part* of another header. Folks have claimed that WS-RM could use refps, perhaps by include a sequence ACK header. But suppose the server just wants to identify the sequence, leaving it up to the sender or WS-RM layer to determine whether to continue or terminate. But I'm on thin ice here, as I don't know how folks are using WS-RM. Not that I care a great deal, since it's a proprietary spec and there's an open WS-ReliableMessaging already :). I'm much more sure of the WSS/WSA conflict I described above.) Unless I'm wrong, this seems to me like a fundamental flaw in the SOAP binding. /r$ -- Rich Salz Chief Security Architect DataPower Technology http://www.datapower.com XS40 XML Security Gateway http://www.datapower.com/products/xs40.html XML Security Overview http://www.datapower.com/xmldev/xmlsecurity.html
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